Refugee crisis

mancityvstoke said:
Why don't the refugees go to Russia? Do they take refugees as well?
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Ive been to Moscow before and you should of heard some of the shit my mate (who is black) was getting in the streets. If thats what happens to a tourist, id hate to think what would happen to somebody seeking asylum.
 
It's a dead child. A dead little boy who died one of the most terrible ways (drowning is one of my worst nightmares) and was sent to that by his parents desperation. If David Cameron doesn't respond positively, given the amount of sympathetic publicity he got for his own disabled child's death, he's a wrong un.
 
The Count Of Monte Cristo said:
I'm not too clued up about it all but you seem to know your apples mate with regards to the troubles in that region. If we were to do what you suggest what would stop their brothers/children/families from wanting vengeance for our actions in the future?
It just seems to be escalating.
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Some of the people fleeing Syria interviewed on TV have said they are fleeing ISIS and this is probably true, if ISIS were not in Syria they would not have to flee
If the World went in and destroyed ISIS and some kind of peace was prevelant I think the next generations of Syrians would be grateful, it's not what the Syrians think though, the people who would object to going in and removing ISIS live in the Western World particularly in Britain, Germany, Holland and Belgium, the Labour party are about to elect one such person as leader soon, years ago they were referred to as a 'Fifth Column'
 
warspite said:
The land they left..Turkey ..was safer than putting the poor little kid in that dingy, his family could have applied for political asylum there, they would have been perfectly safe and the kid and his elder Brother would still be alive
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This is the most pertinent of all the posts I've read on here. The vast majority of these people are are Syrian, Turkey is a benign, secular state that has a population that is 98% muslim, with similar mores and values to their neighbour, Syria. It is a vast, beautiful country with, at present, a healthy economy, so to enter here and then frantically attempt to escape from Turkey suggests that once out of the war zone, people are then choosing Europe for the obvious reasons of it being far richer, and they know the infrastructure will care for them far better, understandable, but not acceptable as far as bona fide asylum is concerned.
When millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, from Africa, Ahghanistan etc; see that if they can just deposit themselves in a western country, the chances of removal being slight, these current numbers will seem trifling.
Heartbreaking though this is the Australian points system and processing off shore has resulted in a sharp decrease in the numbers attempting forced entry, it is inevitable that a similar system will be introduced through Europe eventually, to do otherwise would involve eventual economic collapse.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
This is the most pertinent of all the posts I've read on here. The vast majority of these people are are Syrian, Turkey is a benign, secular state that has a population that is 98% muslim, with similar mores and values to their neighbour, Syria. It is a vast, beautiful country with, at present, a healthy economy, so to enter here and then frantically attempt to escape from Turkey suggests that once out of the war zone, people are then choosing Europe for the obvious reasons of it being far richer, and they know the infrastructure will care for them far better, understandable, but not acceptable as far as bona fide asylum is concerned.
When millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, from Africa, Ahghanistan etc; see that if they can just deposit themselves in a western country, the chances of removal being slight, these current numbers will seem trifling.
Heartbreaking though this is the Australian points system and processing off shore has resulted in a sharp decrease in the numbers attempting forced entry, it is inevitable that a similar system will be introduced through Europe eventually, to do otherwise would involve eventual economic collapse.
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Hhhmmmm have you got your tin hat ready you'r in for a good ear bashing :)
 
Balti said:
there are kids starving to death in the UK trying to live off food banks ffs

it's incredibly sad but it's happening on our doorstep too and we should be more shocked by that
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You make it out as if we are in a similar position to them, behave

It sickens me to the pit of my stomach how folk really don't give a toss abt what's happening

It's all abt looking aft no 1 for some and if it effects you in anyway you take the fuck um approach.
 
About 2 million Syrians have crossed to Turkey, which isn't what I'd call a peaceful country, what with the PKK, ISIS terrorism going on, and the state of their politics. And also, I don't think the Turks really like the Syrians being there. They are seen as beggars and criminals mainly. I've seen it anyway, and while they might be safer in Turkey, than Syria, I can't blame anyone for trying to get to somewhere else.
 
BlueTangerine said:
About 2 million Syrians have crossed to Turkey, which isn't what I'd call a peaceful country, what with the PKK, ISIS terrorism going on, and the state of their politics. And also, I don't think the Turks really like the Syrians being there. They are seen as beggars and criminals mainly. I've seen it anyway, and while they might be safer in Turkey, than Syria, I can't blame anyone for trying to get to somewhere else.
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Correct. Of 4 million refugees that have left Syria (there are many others that have left their homes and moved to other parts of their own country), almost all of them have moved to bordering countries such as Turkey and Jordan. Only 250,000 have made it to Europe, and they should have a fair chance at asylum in these countries.
 
BlueTangerine said:
About 2 million Syrians have crossed to Turkey, which isn't what I'd call a peaceful country, what with the PKK, ISIS terrorism going on, and the state of their politics. And also, I don't think the Turks really like the Syrians being there. They are seen as beggars and criminals mainly. I've seen it anyway, and while they might be safer in Turkey, than Syria, I can't blame anyone for trying to get to somewhere else.
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Seemed pretty peaceful to me when I went to Altinkum Turkey nice food as well, the truth is a lot of these 'refugees' are starting to feel 'entitled' as though Western Europe owes them, the Turks won't give it to them so they move on to the EU cash cow, funny isn't it how the vast majority of these 'Refugees' are aged 16-30
 
There is a fair amount of waffle in this thread. This is what we're talking about;

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A dead child. No jokes, no point scoring, no politics, no religion. A little boy is dead.
 
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warspite said:
Seemed pretty peaceful to me when I went to Altinkum Turkey nice food as well, the truth is a lot of these 'refugees' are starting to feel 'entitled' as though Western Europe owes them, the Turks won't give it to them so they move on to the EU cash cow, funny isn't it how the vast majority of these 'Refugees' are aged 16-30
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The average age of a Syrian is early 20's, I suppose that's why.
 
warspite said:
Seemed pretty peaceful to me when I went to Altinkum Turkey nice food as well, the truth is a lot of these 'refugees' are starting to feel 'entitled' as though Western Europe owes them, the Turks won't give it to them so they move on to the EU cash cow, funny isn't it how the vast majority of these 'Refugees' are aged 16-30
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Its not about western europe, geographical borders and all that shite. Its humans helping humans, its what we do. Thats how we have got to where we are now
 
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