Yes and no. Scratch the surface or spend some time on the darker recesses of social media I don’t think as a species we’re as civilised as we like to think we are. I’m not necessarily linking that to the withering away of organised religion but for a so called sophisticated society we sure could do with some moral guidance sometimesfake belief system to keep society in order. Probably true back in the day. But not now - most of the country aren’t arsed about religion and everything still ticks along as normal.
So before the Abrahamic religions, cheers. Not sure what your last point is, I don’t believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago.Genuine recommendation you read Sapiens
Power, money and land concerns (in the context you’re referring) are a byproduct of the agricultural revolution which started circa 10,000BC. (Or ~6,000 years before the earth was officially created)
It certainly is in Britain, no argument there from me. What’s the 38% census?That figure used to be close to 100%.
And the figure is actually more around 38%, not 53%, at least according to the last census.
Religion is on the decline.
The last census in the UK highlighted that 38% of UK citizens identify as Christian.It certainly is in Britain, no argument there from me. What’s the 38% census?
No I didn’t, you’ve got me confused with the other person you replied to. You insinuated money, land, power were more sought after because of monotheism. I completely disagree with that.You claimed societies without religion don't last long, and tied it to the monoleistic fiaths you were incorrect, as societies flourished long before them.
I added as an aside thelat said monleistic religions are money grabbing power hungry con jobs, I never mentioned utopias or that other societies don't crave money, pand and power.
The fact is you don't need religion to function as a civilised society
It wouldn’t surprise me but I think that’s only a prediction of the census results that haven’t been produced yet? I could be wrong but a quick Google search doesn’t bring up the results yet, only an article making a prediction.The last census in the UK highlighted that 38% of UK citizens identify as Christian.
Even if not all of UK citizens responded, it's nowhere near the number you're claiming.
Where do you get your 53% statistic from?It wouldn’t surprise me but I think that’s only a prediction of the census results that haven’t been produced yet? I could be wrong but a quick Google search doesn’t bring up the results yet, only an article making a prediction.
Actually as a % of the world's population, those with religious beliefs are increasing and those without decreasing and that trend is predicted to continue. Mainly to do with birth/death rates I believe.Religion is on the decline.
We were discussing in the UK, not worldwide.Actually as a % of the world's population, those with religious beliefs are increasing and those without decreasing and that trend is predicted to continue. Mainly to do with birth/death rates I believe.
Ok. Didn't read all the thread.We were discussing in the UK, not worldwide.
That is only when you look at it from a western eye. Ask Africans and they will tell you that religion has been the cause of barbarism throughout our history. Christianity and Islam…Yes and no. Scratch the surface or spend some time on the darker recesses of social media I don’t think as a species we’re as civilised as we like to think we are. I’m not necessarily linking that to the withering away of organised religion but for a so called sophisticated society we sure could do with some moral guidance sometimes
“Eurostat's Eurobarometer survey in December 2018 found that 53.6% of UK's population is Christian, while 6.2% belong to other religions and 40.2% are non-religious (30.3% Agnostics, 9.9% Atheists).”Where do you get your 53% statistic from?
So, a survey, not a census.“Eurostat's Eurobarometer survey in December 2018 found that 53.6% of UK's population is Christian, while 6.2% belong to other religions and 40.2% are non-religious (30.3% Agnostics, 9.9% Atheists).”
Other sources have it higher - https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national...aphic-situation-languages-and-religions-93_en
“Eurostat's Eurobarometer survey in December 2018 found that 53.6% of UK's population is Christian, while 6.2% belong to other religions and 40.2% are non-religious (30.3% Agnostics, 9.9% Atheists).”
Other sources have it higher - https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national...aphic-situation-languages-and-religions-93_en
How many of that 53% go to church out of interest ?“Eurostat's Eurobarometer survey in December 2018 found that 53.6% of UK's population is Christian, while 6.2% belong to other religions and 40.2% are non-religious (30.3% Agnostics, 9.9% Atheists).”
Other sources have it higher - https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national...aphic-situation-languages-and-religions-93_en
Census’s are done every 10 years are they? If so it’s literally the last census we can go off.So, a survey, not a census.
The second contains information from the old census which is a decade out of date.
My wife is a Christian and doesn’t attend church regularly, she fully believes it and prays every night, should she not count?How many of that 53% go to church out of interest ?
Don’t apologise :-) if you live your life in a religious way then you are by definition religious, you can live that way without having strong beliefs. I suppose it’s a discussion around definitions and behaviours.Excuse me for joining in ;)
I think in a survey it can be misleading, I am not religious but in a sence I live my life in a western religious way, if that makes sense.
Does that make me religious ? Or just someone who his caring ?
I have had this discussion with the missus lol as she tries to say I am religious !
Who mentioned counting ? I said out of interest.My wife is a Christian and doesn’t attend church regularly, she fully believes it and prays every night, should she not count?
Don’t want to get into too much discussion about it because I feel it’s been done to death on what is now a very circular and depressing thread but I would contend that religion has been the excuse for barbarism but not the cause.That is only when you look at it from a western eye. Ask Africans and they will tell you that religion has been the cause of barbarism throughout our history. Christianity and Islam…