Relocating The Away Fans: Your Preferred Choice

Re: Away fans location/get it right first time

mannycity said:
There will be great discussions on this topic,from board level,safety executives,local health & safety inspectors,to us the fans.

My hope is they leave them exactly where they are now,
1.local to coach park
2.less disruption for fans around the ground-access and egress along footpath and
Proposed bridge.
3.safety of all our fans especially younger ones.fans merging.
4.Away fans above home fans and corporate areas,objects and missiles being dropped.
5.for cup games and increase in away fan support problems would be greater.
6.home fans surrounding 3 sides of away fans can only increase atmosphere.
7.Problems eventually when eastern side of the ground is developed,bars restaurants.

You would have to apply worse case scenarios, ie. Rags at home European cup semi.
Or FA cup,carling cup games.

Have faith we get it right, 57,000 blues on derby day and only 3,000 rags.
Thankyou sheik mansour.

1. Coach Park can be anywhere, at the Swamp it's across the road.
Police can escort fans too and from their coaches.
2 No sure what you mean here. At the moment fans in East Stand have to walk
up to AT Way. If they want to get a bus into Town, this is a pain in the arse.
There is disruption to some City fans whichever way you play it.
3. Do not see how safety is involved if away fans are in a controlled area.
4. You just take out the first couple of rows of seats and put stewards there.
5. Not really, if you put them in the East Stand you just give them two spirals
and block off the entrances to L2.
6. I would not like to have a whole end of away fans, disperse them to the gods.
7. If we can put a roof on a ground that was supposed to be near impossible
to do we can surely sort out what are just traffic problems.

My take on this is looking at the board fans would like to have a huge Kop end
like Dortmund for example, huge and colourfull, all singing all chanting.
The only way to do this is to remove away fans.
Remember if they are in L3 of the East Stand they will be level with the top
level of the new stand, that's not a million miles away and should still allow
banter.

I understand where you are coming from, this would just be my preference with aplologies to anyone it would inconvenience in the East Stand.
 
Re: Away fans location/get it right first time

Whitworth Park said:
mannycity said:
There will be great discussions on this topic,from board level,safety executives,local health & safety inspectors,to us the fans.

My hope is they leave them exactly where they are now,
1.local to coach park
2.less disruption for fans around the ground-access and egress along footpath and
Proposed bridge.
3.safety of all our fans especially younger ones.fans merging.
4.Away fans above home fans and corporate areas,objects and missiles being dropped.
5.for cup games and increase in away fan support problems would be greater.
6.home fans surrounding 3 sides of away fans can only increase atmosphere.
7.Problems eventually when eastern side of the ground is developed,bars restaurants.

You would have to apply worse case scenarios, ie. Rags at home European cup semi.
Or FA cup,carling cup games.

Have faith we get it right, 57,000 blues on derby day and only 3,000 rags.
Thankyou sheik mansour.

1. Coach Park can be anywhere, at the Swamp it's across the road.
Police can escort fans too and from their coaches.
2 No sure what you mean here. At the moment fans in East Stand have to walk
up to AT Way. If they want to get a bus into Town, this is a pain in the arse.
There is disruption to some City fans whichever way you play it.
3. Do not see how safety is involved if away fans are in a controlled area.
4. You just take out the first couple of rows of seats and put stewards there.
5. Not really, if you put them in the East Stand you just give them two spirals
and block off the entrances to L2.
6. I would not like to have a whole end of away fans, disperse them to the gods.
7. If we can put a roof on a ground that was supposed to be near impossible
to do we can surely sort out what are just traffic problems.

My take on this is looking at the board fans would like to have a huge Kop end
like Dortmund for example, huge and colourfull, all singing all chanting.
The only way to do this is to remove away fans.
Remember if they are in L3 of the East Stand they will be level with the top
level of the new stand, that's not a million miles away and should still allow
banter.

I understand where you are coming from, this would just be my preference with aplologies to anyone it would inconvenience in the East Stand.

Agreed! We're one of the few top clubs without a specialised 'one end' and having away fans in it takes away the (potential) identity of it. The logistics can be taken care of by the club and the away fans will be within reach for 'banter' but the South Stand could become a sea of Blue, potentially with safe standing in future. It could be brilliant, especially if the club become a little more lenient and allow weekly flag days, banners, and so on.
 
M24 Citizen said:
Keep them where they are definitely, solely for atmosphere reasons. It was rubbish when they put them in the 3rd tier for the season before last's CL matches. I want to be able to see the away fans especially in European games.

You are forgetting that if we put them in L3 East Stand they will be level with
our top tier of the new stand.
So they will be in effect next to each other.
 
Re: Away fans location/get it right first time

Definitely keep the south stand blue and move the away fans to the third tier, imagine city attacking the south stand, it could and should be a defining moment in having 'one end'
 
Re: Away fans location/get it right first time

Whitworth Park said:
mannycity said:
There will be great discussions on this topic,from board level,safety executives,local health & safety inspectors,to us the fans.

My hope is they leave them exactly where they are now,
1.local to coach park
2.less disruption for fans around the ground-access and egress along footpath and
Proposed bridge.
3.safety of all our fans especially younger ones.fans merging.
4.Away fans above home fans and corporate areas,objects and missiles being dropped.
5.for cup games and increase in away fan support problems would be greater.
6.home fans surrounding 3 sides of away fans can only increase atmosphere.
7.Problems eventually when eastern side of the ground is developed,bars restaurants.

You would have to apply worse case scenarios, ie. Rags at home European cup semi.
Or FA cup,carling cup games.

Have faith we get it right, 57,000 blues on derby day and only 3,000 rags.
Thankyou sheik mansour.

1. Coach Park can be anywhere, at the Swamp it's across the road.
Police can escort fans too and from their coaches.
2 No sure what you mean here. At the moment fans in East Stand have to walk
up to AT Way. If they want to get a bus into Town, this is a pain in the arse.
There is disruption to some City fans whichever way you play it.
3. Do not see how safety is involved if away fans are in a controlled area.
4. You just take out the first couple of rows of seats and put stewards there.
5. Not really, if you put them in the East Stand you just give them two spirals
and block off the entrances to L2.
6. I would not like to have a whole end of away fans, disperse them to the gods.
7. If we can put a roof on a ground that was supposed to be near impossible
to do we can surely sort out what are just traffic problems.

My take on this is looking at the board fans would like to have a huge Kop end
like Dortmund for example, huge and colourfull, all singing all chanting.
The only way to do this is to remove away fans.
Remember if they are in L3 of the East Stand they will be level with the top
level of the new stand, that's not a million miles away and should still allow
banter.

I understand where you are coming from, this would just be my preference with aplologies to anyone it would inconvenience in the East Stand.

It's not just that, on big cup games away fans will have all the south stand whilst city are moved around and have the top tier. Doesn't seem right to me. Wherever it is decided to put away fans, city should have the entire south stand
 
LoveCity said:
I voted east stand level 3. Sick of them getting some of the best seats and I want our South Stand to be OUR South Stand, our Kop, our version of Dortmund's one end.

If people can't find things to sing about without insulting fat away fans then that's their problem...

Spot on, I though most fans wanted an end like Dortmund.
I don't understand why people need to have away fans breathing down their neck.
The football we are going to play should create the atmosphere.
 
Third tier east stand for me, then for cup games they'd get all the third tier east stand

Once the south stand expansion is complete rename it The New Kippax then we can keep all the fans in that section sat together to create a decent atmosphere.

We should start shooting that way second half too.

If we have them sat anywhere in the SS, where they are or third tier a large element of our vocal support will have to move for European or domestic cup games.

As mentioned with that low roof it could create some real noise

Hopefully the £299 tickets will be bought by young people 18-30, our fan base has a massive gap in it for this age group

Families will stay in the family stand as that's where the cheap kids seats are
 
Two points.

If the away fans are relocated to either 3rd tiers of the East or South Stands, the first x amount of rows will have to remain empty. This willll stop away fans abusing City fans below on 2nd level, and possibly deter them from throwing objects at City fans below.

The above scenario happened at OT for the Semi-final of the Capital One Cup a few years back. City were given the top tier of the K Stand., and the first x amount of rows were closed and meshed off.

I'm guessing the £299 season tickets will be bought by Families. If those seats are located next to the away fans on the 3rd level of the South Stand, those City fans/families will come in for some serious abuse from the away fans.


Serious consideration has to be made about moving away fans to either 3rd tier.

As others have stated, it would be ideal if the away fans in the lower tier and the singers in 111/110/111 could be flipped. This would keep the away fans next to the singers, who would then occupy the whole of the South Stand lower tier. The problem that leaves is accommodating the away fans on level 2 of the South Stand.
 
jrb said:
Two points.

If the away fans are relocated to either 3rd tiers of the East or South Stands, the first x amount of rows will have to remain empty. This willll stop away fans abusing City fans below on 2nd level, and possibly deter them from throwing objects at City fans below.

The above scenario happened at OT for the Semi-final of the Capital One Cup a few years back. City were given the top tier of the K Stand., and the first x amount of rows were closed and meshed off.

I'm guessing the £299 season tickets will be bought by Families. If those seats are located next to the away fans on the 3rd level of the South Stand, those City fans/families will come in for some serious abuse from the away fans.


Serious consideration has to be made about moving away fans to either 3rd tier.

As others have stated, it would be ideal if the away fans in the lower tier and the singers in 111/110/111 could be flipped. This would keep the away fans next to the singers, who would then occupy the whole of the South Stand lower tier. The problem that leaves is accommodating the away fans on level 2 of the South Stand.

For cup & European games though they'd get the full bottom 2 tiers of the SS as now.

3rd tier East for me
 
Re: Away fans location/get it right first time

Give the away fans the 3rd tier of the south stand
Relocate the family stand to south stand
Make the north stand our "big end"
 

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