Restoring the Death Penalty in Britain

[Damocles]

Ah the Death Penalty question.

The last bastion of those who try to find an excuse to make themselves "better" than a certain class of people.

Put short, you want to kill people. Everything else in this argument is entirely irrelevant. You want to kill another person, and in my mind, that loses you an ability to have a rational discussion, because you're acting out of hatred rather than logic.

Pro death penalty people disgust me in the worst possible way, because they believe that they have the right to decide why somebody's life should be ended. They are also the same people who dig in at places like Saudi Arabia as savages then try their best to get our system to emulate it.

 

[Quaristice]

Some of the comments on here are laughable 'death is to good for them'

Silly and ironic.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Not really contributing to the debate, but as ever the Daily Mash did make me laugh on this:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...itish-people-should-be-executed-201108044155/

THE majority of British adults should be killed by the government, according to a new survey.



If we crank it up a notch we could get through 20,000 social workers a dayAn opinion poll found that 64% wanted 56% of the population to be hanged, beheaded or handcuffed to a trolley and injected with bleach.

The biggest target for government-sponsored murder should be social workers, followed by bankers, teachers, tabloid journalists, murderers and anyone who has ever worked for the BBC.

MPs are now set to debate calls for the state to kill most of the people in the country, as well as 'e-petitions' demanding the return of open sewers, coat hanger abortions and polio.

Margaret Gerving, from Guildford, said: "It has reached the point where I am afraid I would like to see most people killed by the government. And is that not a damning indictment of the way in which liberals have ruined British society?

"If it was not for them I suspect I would be living in a decent country where I would only want the government to kill a fairly small number of people."

She added: "Of course when this country had polio we also had proper values. We didn't have murdering or gayness or gay people murdering children, as they do almost every day now.

"I would happily inject bleach into a gay, paedophile child murderer. Especially if he is one of those ones that can speak French or watches a soap opera that contains a disproportionate number of homosexuals."

The survey also showed that 58% want the government to kill anyone who believes that child murderers should be kept alive and studied so we can find out as much as we possibly can about their brains.

Conservative MP Philip Davies said: "Not wanting to kill child murderers is exactly the same as murdering a child. In fact there's a study by the University of Staines which proves it's actually worse.

"The same study also proved that government-sponsored murder is a deterrent if you invent a completely different version of America to the one that actually exists."

But Julian Cook, professor of the same old tedious fucking bullshit at Roehampton University, said: "Our study actually found that the people who are in favour of execution are also the ones who go on and on - and fucking on - about how 'them Muslims are coming over here and trying to turn Britain into New Muslimia, where everybody gets executed and stuff'.

"Thank Christ they haven't realised. Can you imagine what would happen if this country was just slightly less stupid?"

Even though the article is meant to be a joke, that last bit is so true.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Ah the Death Penalty question.

The last bastion of those who try to find an excuse to make themselves "better" than a certain class of people.

Put short, you want to kill people. Everything else in this argument is entirely irrelevant. You want to kill another person, and in my mind, that loses you an ability to have a rational discussion, because you're acting out of hatred rather than logic.

Pro death penalty people disgust me in the worst possible way, because they believe that they have the right to decide why somebody's life should be ended. They are also the same people who dig in at places like Saudi Arabia as savages then try their best to get our system to emulate it.

Interesting. Soldiers also want to 'Kill people,' are they acting out of hatred? My father knew for certain he killed 2 Germans in 1944, he was on his own and made the decision himself. The state trained him and encouraged him to take as many lives as possible, but he hated himself afterwards. I know we are discussing State execution here but you are indicating that anybody who opposes your view should be dismissed entirely as irrational as they must be acting purely on hatred.This is not the case for millions of pro death penalty supporters, and rational decisions are not exclusive to people who are against.
My personal belief is that civilised countries should not employ it, but there is an awful lot of pertinent argument for.
Live and let live.

(Could'nt resist that.)

 

[Bluemoon115]

I see the loony left has taken over again.

Of course we have to kill to prove that killing is wrong!

I'd have a thousand innocent people killed, just for one psycho being put to a stop!

Just look at the stats from countries with the death penalty, countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, it obviously acts as a deterrent there, and gives the people peace of mind in their free and open societies! Hell, lets follow Irans example and execute juvenile offenders on the street, that'll stop them hoodies!

 

[SWP's back]

Ah the Death Penalty question.

The last bastion of those who try to find an excuse to make themselves "better" than a certain class of people.

Put short, you want to kill people. Everything else in this argument is entirely irrelevant. You want to kill another person, and in my mind, that loses you an ability to have a rational discussion, because you're acting out of hatred rather than logic.

Pro death penalty people disgust me in the worst possible way, because they believe that they have the right to decide why somebody's life should be ended. They are also the same people who dig in at places like Saudi Arabia as savages then try their best to get our system to emulate it.

Interesting. Soldiers also want to 'Kill people,' are they acting out of hatred? My father knew for certain he killed 2 Germans in 1944, he was on his own and made the decision himself. The state trained him and encouraged him to take as many lives as possible, but he hated himself afterwards. I know we are discussing State execution here but you are indicating that anybody who opposes your view should be dismissed entirely as irrational as they must be acting purely on hatred.This is not the case for millions of pro death penalty supporters, and rational decisions are not exclusive to people who are against.
My personal belief is that civilised countries should not employ it, but there is an awful lot of pertinent argument for.
Live and let live.

(Could'nt resist that.)

Idiocy in the extreme. Most soldiers do NOT "want" to kill people and those that do, often want to for the reasons of hatred and revenge so that example is ridiculous in the extreme. There is a difference between having to kill in war to stay alive and wanting to kill.

 

[Halfpenny]

I see the loony left has taken over again.

Of course we have to kill to prove that killing is wrong!

I'd have a thousand innocent people killed, just for one psycho being put to a stop!

Just look at the stats from countries with the death penalty, countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, it obviously acts as a deterrent there, and gives the people peace of mind in their free and open societies! Hell, lets follow Irans example and execute juvenile offenders on the street, that'll stop them hoodies!

Oh come on, it's not a deterrent. Look at how many mass shootings they have in the USA compared to here. We've basically had two/three in the last 20 years, Dunblane, Derrick Bird and Raoul Moat (does that count?). And two of those killed themselves. There have been dozens in the US since then. Coupled with lax gun legislation it doesn't seem to act as much of a deterrent. It's not a 'loony left' idea to be against the death penalty, and it's ridiculous that you seek to put it down as such.

An eye for an eye is absolutely not the way to go, and I am completely against the death penalty being reinstated.

 

[SWP's back]

I see the loony left has taken over again.

Of course we have to kill to prove that killing is wrong!

I'd have a thousand innocent people killed, just for one psycho being put to a stop!

Just look at the stats from countries with the death penalty, countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, it obviously acts as a deterrent there, and gives the people peace of mind in their free and open societies! Hell, lets follow Irans example and execute juvenile offenders on the street, that'll stop them hoodies!

Oh come on, it's not a deterrent. Look at how many mass shootings they have in the USA compared to here. We've basically had two/three in the last 20 years, Dunblane, Derrick Bird and Raoul Moat (does that count?). There have been dozens in the US since then. Coupled with lax gun legislation it doesn't seem to act as much of a deterrent. It's not a 'loony left' idea to be against the death penalty, and it's ridiculous that you seek to put it down as such.

An eye for an eye is absolutely not the way to go, and I am completely against the death penalty being reinstated.

Whoosh

 

[Halfpenny]

I see the loony left has taken over again.

Of course we have to kill to prove that killing is wrong!

I'd have a thousand innocent people killed, just for one psycho being put to a stop!

Just look at the stats from countries with the death penalty, countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, it obviously acts as a deterrent there, and gives the people peace of mind in their free and open societies! Hell, lets follow Irans example and execute juvenile offenders on the street, that'll stop them hoodies!

Oh come on, it's not a deterrent. Look at how many mass shootings they have in the USA compared to here. We've basically had two/three in the last 20 years, Dunblane, Derrick Bird and Raoul Moat (does that count?). There have been dozens in the US since then. Coupled with lax gun legislation it doesn't seem to act as much of a deterrent. It's not a 'loony left' idea to be against the death penalty, and it's ridiculous that you seek to put it down as such.

An eye for an eye is absolutely not the way to go, and I am completely against the death penalty being reinstated.

Whoosh

I've done myself here haven't I? :P

In my defence, i've been awake for half an hour.

 

[Bluemoon115]

I see the loony left has taken over again.

Of course we have to kill to prove that killing is wrong!

I'd have a thousand innocent people killed, just for one psycho being put to a stop!

Just look at the stats from countries with the death penalty, countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia and North Korea, it obviously acts as a deterrent there, and gives the people peace of mind in their free and open societies! Hell, lets follow Irans example and execute juvenile offenders on the street, that'll stop them hoodies!

Oh come on, it's not a deterrent. Look at how many mass shootings they have in the USA compared to here. We've basically had two/three in the last 20 years, Dunblane, Derrick Bird and Raoul Moat (does that count?). And two of those killed themselves. There have been dozens in the US since then. Coupled with lax gun legislation it doesn't seem to act as much of a deterrent. It's not a 'loony left' idea to be against the death penalty, and it's ridiculous that you seek to put it down as such.

An eye for an eye is absolutely not the way to go, and I am completely against the death penalty being reinstated.

Well, it was a sarcastic post, but yeah, it does look pretty genuine.

DAMN! I forgot to mention do-gooders. I've failed...