robin van persie (continued)

[Marvin]

Re: robin van persie

Or just the opposite. Maybe he understands the fact that a striker is far from what we need and Van Persie has had 1 full season without injury and that we already have two strikers (Tevez, Aguero) who are the same type of players. Plus he's 28 going to be 29 at the beginning of the season. There is no point in buying Robin Van Persie.

Exactly my feelings. We might be targeting some outstanding players, but I wonder whether these players are better than what we have. So far the players we are in for, do not represent a step forward unlike previous transfer windows.

As the team improves each year, it's natural that it will get harder to improve on what we have. I wish we would sit tight and wait, if necessary for the whole season, rather than bidding for the best player at any particular moment in time. There's no rush any more.

Last season Barca as far as I an remember bought 1 player. Why should we bid right left and centre for players that don't add anything to us, (and arguably would weaken us as it would mean departures)

Barca were arguably the greatest club side ever; City are inarguably not the greatest club side ever but with serious aspirations to at least become the best side in the world. Therefore we need to strengthen. RvP for Dzeko, for example, would improve us - it's that simple.

How would it? Dzeko was on the bench. Tevez and Aguero start, and if we need to change it better to have a different type of striker coming on.

 

[Pam]

Re: robin van persie

Until now, I didn't want us to go for RVP because other than last season, his fitness record was shite. But someone said he knows how to look after himself better than he once did and there's no reason to suppose this will change. If that's true, I would love us to get him. Just don't want another RSC on our hands but perhaps it's not the same thing. He isn't particularly young but he's probably still got three or four very good seasons in him. I am warming to the idea.

 

[Ray78]

Re: robin van persie

We have to back Bobby's Judgement on this signing.

 

[Ireland_for_pm]

Re: robin van persie

We have to back Bobby's Judgement on this signing.

Exactly. If mancini thinks RVP is the right signing then we have to trust him on this. Not as if we're signing a shit player is it FFS!

 

[OB1]

Re: robin van persie

Exactly my feelings. We might be targeting some outstanding players, but I wonder whether these players are better than what we have. So far the players we are in for, do not represent a step forward unlike previous transfer windows.

As the team improves each year, it's natural that it will get harder to improve on what we have. I wish we would sit tight and wait, if necessary for the whole season, rather than bidding for the best player at any particular moment in time. There's no rush any more.

Last season Barca as far as I an remember bought 1 player. Why should we bid right left and centre for players that don't add anything to us, (and arguably would weaken us as it would mean departures)

Barca were arguably the greatest club side ever; City are inarguably not the greatest club side ever but with serious aspirations to at least become the best side in the world. Therefore we need to strengthen. RvP for Dzeko, for example, would improve us - it's that simple.

How would it? Dzeko was on the bench. Tevez and Aguero start, and if we need to change it better to have a different type of striker coming on.

It would improve the overall quality of the squad as RvP is a better player than Dzeko and, on current form, better than Tevez so it might be Tevez on the bench. However, that isn't so important in this equation: Dzeko is the least talented of the four main strikers City have so replacing him with a better player improves the squad and it's a squad game where rotation is important.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: robin van persie

We have to back Bobby's Judgement on this signing.

Exactly. If mancini thinks RVP is the right signing then we have to trust him on this. Not as if we're signing a shit player is it FFS!

I'll back his judgement but I'd prefer he'd judge it differently.

 

[OB1]

Re: robin van persie

We have to back Bobby's Judgement on this signing.

Exactly. If mancini thinks RVP is the right signing then we have to trust him on this. Not as if we're signing a shit player is it FFS!

I'll back his judgement but I'd prefer he'd judge it differently.

So would I but RvP would improve the squad, assuming he replaces a player that is not better than him...

 

[Ray78]

Re: robin van persie

We have to back Bobby's Judgement on this signing.

Exactly. If mancini thinks RVP is the right signing then we have to trust him on this. Not as if we're signing a shit player is it FFS!

I'll back his judgement but I'd prefer he'd judge it differently.

Even if he was interested in signing Emile Heskey I still back him, though I would think he was going a bit insane and would not be at the club for long.

 

[FinallyGoodwin]

Re: robin van persie

 

[dbs25]

Re: robin van persie

It would improve the overall quality of the squad as RvP is a better player than Dzeko and, on current form, better than Tevez so it might be Tevez on the bench. However, that isn't so important in this equation: Dzeko is the least talented of the four main strikers City have so replacing him with a better player improves the squad and it's a squad game where rotation is important.

It's hard to see how the current attack could be improved without signing a really top player e.g. Messi, Ronaldo, Robben. Defensively a player like Thiago Silva, and M'Vila & Martinez for midfield is the only realistic way the squad could be improved.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re: robin van persie

It's hard to see how the current attack could be improved without signing a really top player e.g. Messi, Ronaldo, Robben. Defensively a player like Thiago Silva, and M'Vila & Martinez for midfield is the only realistic way the squad could be improved.

So,in your opinion,RVP is not a really top player?

 

[dbs25]

Re: robin van persie

It's hard to see how the current attack could be improved without signing a really top player e.g. Messi, Ronaldo, Robben. Defensively a player like Thiago Silva, and M'Vila & Martinez for midfield is the only realistic way the squad could be improved.

So,in your opinion,RVP is not a really top player?

He is a world class player, but I would still place him below the attackers I listed. How much of an improvement would he be over Tevez & Aguero? I'd say probably not an improvement on Aguero and maybe only slightly better than Tevez.

 

[daxman]

Re: robin van persie

How seriously can people not want rvp at city??? He's fantastic!! If he scores over 30 goals for the arse think that he would do in our team??

He is fantastic, but I prefer Aguero, and his best partner would be Tevez.

At Arsenal, RVP was their spearhead and focal point. If City signed, he would not be.

Find it a bit worrying that we are thinking if tinkering with the very best aspect of our team which is the forward play. Hazard was a dumb deal, and I'm glad that fell through. Hopefully this will too.

If someone like Robben became available, I'd go for them, or martinez, but not a centre-forward. We already have the best forward line in Europe so why spend Millions putting FFP at risk in an area where we don't need it

Last season we were top scorers, and we missed Tevez for nearly the whole season, and it was Agueros first season. There's significant improvement to come.

We'd be much better off looking at strengthening the full back or centre-back positions. That's where we could improve. And if a star player becomes available we should look at it, but only if they are better than what we have. I don't see RVP as better than Aguero, or Tevez. Maybe better than Dzeko or Mario, but they are useful in that they are different to Aguero and Tevez

A more intelligent synopsis on our squad has never been written. Kudos Marvin. The idea of tinkering with our forward line beffuddles me. I don't care who is available, so long as none of our strikers want out, I really don't care. Only Messi and Ronaldo could change my mind on that. Frankly put, our strike force (all four) are in the 1st and 2nd tiers of the very top. No other team in the world has 4 strikers in the top 30 strikers in the world. Frankly we need not fiddle with that position.

In Midfield, we can improve some. On defense, we can improve some. We really can't at striker. Aguero, Tevez, Balotelli, Dzeko, really is too good to be honest. We can improve on getting them the ball, sure. And in some years other strikers from other teams will have better years than ours. But overall, we have 4 immensely talented strikers. Tevez and Aguero are both in the top 10 in the world. Dzeko is Serbia's best, and Balotelli is Italy's best. You really will struggle to find a better collection anywhere in the world.

 

[MCFC4EVR]

Re: robin van persie

Seriously Serbia? dax

 

[sincity]

Re: robin van persie

Dzeko is Serbia's best

lol, Bosnian mate..you do realize they were once at war with each other, and are probably still sworn enemies?
Hope the Bosnian fans on here don't see this, they'd explode :)

 

[munster]

Re: robin van persie

I work in London with a die-hard Gooner and someone with his ear close to the ground at the Emirates/London Colney.

His view on Gazidis's statement is that they have failed to reach a deal with RVP who is leaving for another club. If he were commmitting to Arsenal then they would have announced something. Arsenal are protecting him from any adverse publicity ahead of the Euros by saying "no comment" at the mo.

Interestingly though the suitors appear to be us and Juve.

I recall Duncan Castles in The Sunday Times ran a story that City had agreed in principle terms with RVP's people in March.

Interesting.

 

[southern muppet]

Re: robin van persie

A more intelligent synopsis on our squad has never been written. Kudos Marvin. The idea of tinkering with our forward line beffuddles me. I don't care who is available, so long as none of our strikers want out, I really don't care. Only Messi and Ronaldo could change my mind on that. Frankly put, our strike force (all four) are in the 1st and 2nd tiers of the very top. No other team in the world has 4 strikers in the top 30 strikers in the world. Frankly we need not fiddle with that position.

In Midfield, we can improve some. On defense, we can improve some. We really can't at striker. Aguero, Tevez, Balotelli, Dzeko, really is too good to be honest. We can improve on getting them the ball, sure. And in some years other strikers from other teams will have better years than ours. But overall, we have 4 immensely talented strikers. Tevez and Aguero are both in the top 10 in the world. Dzeko is Serbia's best, and Balotelli is Italy's best. You really will struggle to find a better collection anywhere in the world.

 

[Stuuuuuu]

Re: robin van persie

In Midfield, we can improve some. On defense, we can improve some.

Improve some what?

 

[Seosa]

Re: robin van persie

Dzeko is Serbia's best

Fucking Lol, you really are a mug. Stick to NFL or NHL, etc.

 

[vamps]

Re: robin van persie

Dzeko is Serbia's best