robin van persie (continued)

[Tevez City]

It will be funny to sign him and then let him,adebayor,Nasri,Kolo and Clichy play against Arsenal.

 

[bitterblue]

Can anyone give examples of household name strikers who have been at a club in this country for many years, then moved at the peak age of 28/29 and won titles at other clubs ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

What about teddy Sheringham, he was 30/31 when he signed for utd.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Me to, sick of arguing the point with what I see as complete numptys.

I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.

The reasons are very clear.

1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.

Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is an bad slant on Bob.

How do you know that Bob wants RVP, because TH says so? He could have just as likely been tapped up Real, Juve or PSG so until he signs then we don 't what RM wants, and anyway what is this RAWK no manager is beyond question not even RM, I have supported Bob since he took the job, but I would be lying if I said I had never at anypoint questioned his judgement.

 

[i8rags]

Can anyone give examples of household name strikers who have been at a club in this country for many years, then moved at the peak age of 28/29 and won titles at other clubs ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

The been at a club for many years bit rules out most, but for example, Carlos Tevez.

 

[i8rags]

I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.

The reasons are very clear.

1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.

Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is an bad slant on Bob.

How do you know that Bob wants RVP, because TH says so? He could have just as likely been tapped up Real, Juve or PSG so until he signs then we don 't what RM wants, and anyway what is this RAWK no manager is beyond question not even RM, I have supported Bob since he took the job, but I would be lying if I said I had never at anypoint questioned his judgement.

John cross mirror journo and so called Arsenal expert was on talkshite today and he said, Mancini is desperate to sign RvP. Also Arsenal themselves are accusing us of tapping up RvP,
But of course it's coz TH said so. On a further note, if you questioned Mancinis judgement at any time then surely you have been proved wrong.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Can anyone give examples of household name strikers who have been at a club in this country for many years, then moved at the peak age of 28/29 and won titles at other clubs ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

The been at a club for many years bit rules out most, but for example, Carlos Tevez.

Carlos is different though, before us he had a goal rate below1 in 3 at WHam and the Rags, for us it is better than 1 in 2. I don't think Hughes bought CT as a main striker anyway, he probably meant to use him as a SS or trequartista, and CT only excelled when he was moved up to the main striker position when Hughes was sacked. Also CT was n't the star player and main striker at the rags whilst RVP obviously is.

 

[Damocles]

Can anyone give examples of household name[1] strikers[2] who have been at a club in this country[3] for many years[4], then moved at the peak age of 28/29[5] and won titles at other clubs[6] ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

You don't get to ask a question with 6 qualifiers then look on all knowingly when it can't be answered.

Example:

Can anybody name me a world class[1] defender[2] who played for his country[3] for many years[4] before he moved on [5] and won a trophy?[6]

 

[dctid]

Me to, sick of arguing the point with what I see as complete numptys.

I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.

The reasons are very clear.

1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.

Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is a bad slant on Bob. Bad slant on Bob = numpty.

This is a football forum fella where people post and discuss issues - that is the point of such forums - if you dont want to argue dont - but if you dont like other peoples opinions then stick to the official web site.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is an bad slant on Bob.

How do you know that Bob wants RVP, because TH says so? He could have just as likely been tapped up Real, Juve or PSG so until he signs then we don 't what RM wants, and anyway what is this RAWK no manager is beyond question not even RM, I have supported Bob since he took the job, but I would be lying if I said I had never at anypoint questioned his judgement.

John cross mirror journo and so called Arsenal expert was on talkshite today and he said, Mancini is desperate to sign RvP. Also Arsenal themselves are accusing us of tapping up RvP,
But of course it's coz TH said so. On a further note, if you questioned Mancinis judgement at any time then surely you have been proved wrong.

That is foolish to think that way, Mancini has admitted several times that he had mistakes at Everton and liverpool (in 10-11) perhaps, I did n't say I think we should sack him but to think a manager can do no wrong is misguided as is taking anything said by a supposed ITK on an internet forum (who uses Youtube videos to communicate) as gospel.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Can anyone give examples of household name[1] strikers[2] who have been at a club in this country[3] for many years[4], then moved at the peak age of 28/29[5] and won titles at other clubs[6] ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

You don't get to ask a question with 6 qualifiers then look on all knowingly when it can't be answered.

Example:

Can anybody name me a world class[1] defender[2] who played for his country[3] for many years[4] before he moved on [5] and won a trophy?[6]

His question has been answered twice. Yorke and Sherringham

 

[Cityfan]

Can anyone give examples of household name strikers who have been at a club in this country for many years, then moved at the peak age of 28/29 and won titles at other clubs ?

If this move is so obviuosly not a gamble, then surely there must be scores of these ?

Not really because there have not been scores of clubs that have won league titles in recent memory.
Major clubs signing big name strikers from other English sides have been few and far between,
Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Cantona were obvious sucesses for Utd.
Berbatov was not
Anelka was pretty good at Chelsea, Torres so far has not been.
Shearer was great at Newcastle, Fowler flopped at Leeds.

But if you look at imports form other countries similar story.
Schevchenko, Rebrov, Crespo not very successful Torres, Aguero van Nistleroy pretty good.

RvP may or may not be a success the fact that he comes from another English club does not determine whether or not it's a gamble.

 

[fat boy blue]

Re: Do we need RVP?

My main concerns are his injury record & his lack of pace at the highest level . But week in week out against most of the prem his movement makes up for it

 

[AntonDonJuan]

I don't think sky blue will suit Van Persie, so for that reason, i'm out

 

[No One Understands]

Re: Do we need RVP?

This is the same kind of thinking that brought us roque santa cruz, and while yes they are in different categories as players, it is still similar circumstances

van persie was slightly above average until last year and never completed a season without multiple and very long term injuries until last year. is pushing 29, and for the kind of player that he is, cannot possibly see us getting more than a couple of good seasons from him at best. a very poor return on investment, and while yes it's not my money, i also don't like being a yo yo club, whether in terms of performances or player turn over. he's not maradona or messi, and even if we win a chumps league with him it won't endear him to me or give him legend status for me. add to that the fact that he never spoke highly of us during our transformation and i really don't want him here. we might be a team of mercenaries, but most of them are loyal mercenaries and wanted to be here long before we'd won hardly anything after the takeover

 

[swedishcityfan]

Re: Do we need RVP?

No we don't. He is old, he get's injuryed all the time and very expensive. Go for Cavani instead.

 

[TGR]

Re: Do we need RVP?

No.

 

[paul.manc]

Re: Do we need RVP?

No I don't think we do.

Personally I think Tevez will stay and the fact that we did so well towards the end of last season playing 4-2-2-2, 5 strikers is completely unnecessary imo.

 

[kalouk]

Me to, sick of arguing the point with what I see as complete numptys.

I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.

The reasons are very clear.

1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.

Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is a bad slant on Bob. Bad slant on Bob = numpty.

It's a bit harsh to assume people who disagree are somehow disrespecting Mancini. It's just pointing out the other side of the argument and we all know it matters not a bit what we think or say. Surely your argument could be flipped the other way by saying that Mancini wanted Dzeko but now people are saying he is not good enough, therefore questioning Bobbys judgement, are they numptys?

 

[Ray78]

Even the greatest managers make mistakes. What separates them from the others is that they make fewer mistakes, and in my opinion Roberto Mancini hasn't dropped to many clangers.

 

[lastmanback]

I don't think sky blue will suit Van Persie, so for that reason, i'm out

And I don't like footballers with grey hair.