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St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Just caught up with the last 10 pages of bitching on here-AGAIN.!!

Lots acting like spoilt brats-AGAIN!!

Why not just wait and see what pans out??

I personally have always wanted him at city,not because if he goes to united he will make them stronger,which he undoubtedly will,but because he would make us so much stronger.

Anyone who doesn't want RVP seriously needs to wobble their head-He is proven in the prem.
I honestly don't want him anywhere near our club, Sint 'elens!
 
Rammy Blue said:
Soulboy said:
Marvin said:
Aguero and Tevez are proven. So that kills your argument stone dead


Ah, but he's better than Dzeko.

That seems to be the main argument for us signing him... bizarre.

I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.
I think Mancini would like to use Tevez and Aguero as his main strikers with Mario as back up. Dzeko can be used to change the game as he has different qualities to the rest. RVP conflicts with Aguero. Aguero is the main man at the moment and should remain so
 
Marvin said:
Soulboy said:
Marvin said:
Aguero and Tevez are proven. So that kills your argument stone dead


Ah, but he's better than Dzeko.

That seems to be the main argument for us signing him... bizarre.
My theory is that we looked at RVP when Tevez was looking for a move, but now that he has changed his mind, the only logic in our current interest is to up the fee Utd have to pay. Unfortunately it only delays the inevitable. The best scenario is that he goes abroad or stays at Arsenal.


You really shouldn't be saying that.

It goes totally against the Bluemoon ITK accepted belief.

Even if it does make more sense. All will be revealed soon, I'm sure.

But the inherent view of quite a few on Bluemoon are pretty much up against the whole football journalistic media at this moment in time... ;-))

It will be interseting to see who is proved correct. But like you, I'm not convinced about the RvP deal on whole number of levels.
 
Marvin said:
Rammy Blue said:
Soulboy said:
Ah, but he's better than Dzeko.

That seems to be the main argument for us signing him... bizarre.

I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.
I think Mancini would like to use Tevez and Aguero as his main strikers with Mario as back up. Dzeko can be used to change the game as he has different qualities to the rest. RVP conflicts with Aguero. Aguero is the main man at the moment and should remain so

But you've just proved my argument there - Edin in no way, shape or form is going to accept being a 4th choice striker. He's better than that.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Soulboy said:
Marvin said:
Aguero and Tevez are proven. So that kills your argument stone dead


Ah, but he's better than Dzeko.

That seems to be the main argument for us signing him... bizarre.

I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.


Rammy, I have no doubt that RvP is better than Dzeko. That really isn't the issue with me.

RvP is not coming as 4th. choice striker, so if he signs the chances are that Balotelli will become our 4th. striker... and you think we can justify that? I don't.

For all Balotelli's idiosyncracies, the last thing we should be doing now is relegating him to a bit-part player at the club. So us signing RvP is him replacing Balo or Tevez... NOT Dzeko.
 
Soulboy said:
Rammy Blue said:
Soulboy said:
Ah, but he's better than Dzeko.

That seems to be the main argument for us signing him... bizarre.

I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.


Rammy, I have no doubt that RvP is better than Dzeko. That really isn't the issue with me.

RvP is not coming as 4th. choice striker, so if he signs the chances are that Balotelli will become our 4th. striker... and you think we can justify that? I don't.

For all Balotelli's idiosyncracies, the last thing we should be doing now is relegating him to a bit-part player at the club. So us signing RvP is him replacing Balo or Tevez... NOT Dzeko.

But I think that Bob will rotate all 4, if we get RvP for Dzeko, depending on opposition rather than which competition we are playing in.

So I don't believe for one minute any of them will be classed as 4th choice - I reckon any combo of Sergio, Carlos, RvP and Balo would be dynamite.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Marvin said:
Rammy Blue said:
I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.
I think Mancini would like to use Tevez and Aguero as his main strikers with Mario as back up. Dzeko can be used to change the game as he has different qualities to the rest. RVP conflicts with Aguero. Aguero is the main man at the moment and should remain so

But you've just proved my argument there - Edin in no way, shape or form is going to accept being a 4th choice striker. He's better than that.
I'll agree Dzeko is vulnerable as Tevez and Balotelli are on the way up, but as others have said, if RVP comes it will not be to replace a 4th choice striker.

I doubt we have any real interest in RVP otherwise it would have been done by now - it remains an option if someone comes in for Dzeko, but even then I'd prefer a younger alternative who be back up for Aguero, Tevez and Balotelli
 
citytill1die84 said:
Chippy_boy said:
CityCTID said:
this only

Not this.

RVP gained Arsenal extra points because they were shite for much of the season. Plus he had the season of his life, never to be repeated IMHO.

Next season he will likely spend half of it in the physio's room like he always does. And he won't get the rags an extra 16 points because they aren't garbage and they have Rooney to bang I the goals, which sadly he does rather well.

Plus, we don't need RVP and he's no better than what we have. I am not unhappy if we don't sign him. I'd far rather we spent the money on a Yaya backup. When Yaya is not playing we look lost.

Wrong the Rags scraped loads of 1-0 victories last season. The struggled in quite a few matches as well. With a RVP and Rooney forward line they'd be very dangerous going forward. Having RVP forward would allow Shrek to drop back a lot knowing the have an out and out striker in RVP. As for RVP being no better than what we have I'll tell u he's better than Dzeko and Balotelli(at the moment). Balotelli has potential but needs to mature. RVP is an upgrade and would be perfect at City and I want him here.

If he doesn't come here I sure as hell don't want him to join the Rags.

1. RVP might be better than Dzeko or Balotelli, but it's not those two who he'd be replacing every week is it. It would be either Tevez or Aguero and imho RVP is better than neither.

2. A fit and healthy RVP would doubtless strengthen the rags somewhat, yes, of course. But not to the extent people seem to be worried about. Plus, he will be inured for half the season as usual. Count on it.<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:06 am --<br /><br />
Rammy Blue said:
Soulboy said:
Rammy Blue said:
I've always thought though that Bob doesn't actually rate Dzeko as a player for City, and I reckon Edin knows it and he'll always be down the pecking order at City.

I think Bob would be happy to replace him with RvP so that he'll have 4 strikers that he can happily rotate without ever feeling he's weakening the side.


Rammy, I have no doubt that RvP is better than Dzeko. That really isn't the issue with me.

RvP is not coming as 4th. choice striker, so if he signs the chances are that Balotelli will become our 4th. striker... and you think we can justify that? I don't.

For all Balotelli's idiosyncracies, the last thing we should be doing now is relegating him to a bit-part player at the club. So us signing RvP is him replacing Balo or Tevez... NOT Dzeko.

But I think that Bob will rotate all 4, if we get RvP for Dzeko, depending on opposition rather than which competition we are playing in.

So I don't believe for one minute any of them will be classed as 4th choice - I reckon any combo of Sergio, Carlos, RvP and Balo would be dynamite.

Do you really think RVP would leave Arsenal to join City and be just one of 4 strikers, potentially sitting out half a season on the bench? No fucking chance. In fact he'd be mad to, to be honest. If he comes to us, it will be with the promise of starting every week.

So I can't see it happening actually.
 
Chippy_boy said:
citytill1die84 said:
Chippy_boy said:
Not this.

RVP gained Arsenal extra points because they were shite for much of the season. Plus he had the season of his life, never to be repeated IMHO.

Next season he will likely spend half of it in the physio's room like he always does. And he won't get the rags an extra 16 points because they aren't garbage and they have Rooney to bang I the goals, which sadly he does rather well.

Plus, we don't need RVP and he's no better than what we have. I am not unhappy if we don't sign him. I'd far rather we spent the money on a Yaya backup. When Yaya is not playing we look lost.

Wrong the Rags scraped loads of 1-0 victories last season. The struggled in quite a few matches as well. With a RVP and Rooney forward line they'd be very dangerous going forward. Having RVP forward would allow Shrek to drop back a lot knowing the have an out and out striker in RVP. As for RVP being no better than what we have I'll tell u he's better than Dzeko and Balotelli(at the moment). Balotelli has potential but needs to mature. RVP is an upgrade and would be perfect at City and I want him here.

If he doesn't come here I sure as hell don't want him to join the Rags.

1. RVP might be better than Dzeko or Balotelli, but it's not those two who he'd be replacing every week is it. It would be either Tevez or Aguero and imho RVP is better than neither.

2. A fit and healthy RVP would doubtless strengthen the rags somewhat, yes, of course. But not to the extent people seem to be worried about. Plus, he will be inured for half the season as usual. Count on it.
Hope you're right.
 
Why will he be injured for half a season? He hasnt been injured in a few years now, and has as much chance of breaking down as Aguero or Silva next season.
 
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