Russian invasion of Ukraine

[argyle]

There will be lot's of thoughts and prayers with the people's of Ukraine...

...until they flee and want to come to Western European countries.

Then there will be the traditional hatred of refugees.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Didn't the powers that be make an agreement with Ukraine that if they agree to give up their nukes that we'd treat them as if they were a NATO member?

No

 

[Chris B]

It is Ukraine. Not The Ukraine.

Not aimed at just you, and apologies for what seems a petty and meaningless remark. It isn't. It is pretty fucking significant, particularly at this point when it's entire sovereignty and identity is being fannied about with.

A lot of people seem keen to make this point but I wonder how relevant it is. We happily talk about the UK, the Netherlands, and the US without delegitimising their existence as sovereign states.

I think one of the African nations uniquely officially has ‘The’ at the start of its title in a territorial sense (referring to the river). Can’t remember which one, The Gambia, The Congo, maybe.

Many other nations proudly have ‘The’ at the beginning in their official names, although generally in a non-territorial sense. Our own ‘The United Kingdom of…’ and various others: ‘The people’s democratic…’ etc.

 

[domalino]

So they both have "The" before them? I never said it doesn't matter I said that it wasn't unusual.

Fancy a holiday in the Sudan after this shenanigans to refuel the old batteries.

Are you going to Sudan or South Sudan?

 

[bluethrunthru]

scruffy haired twat taking up time to try and look like a stateman whilst saying nothing - worst PM we could have at the worst possible time

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Doesn't phase me any of that mate, grew up on the internet seen it all unfortunately.

Yep. Sad as it is, our generation have seen fucking allsorts. The mrs can't understand why I'm desensitised to some films.

 

[blueinsa]

Putin on Russian state TV?

Let’s see if the poster I quoted, who seemingly can only harp on about Tories in this thread will tell us all who said it?

My guess is they won’t.

This thread should be about Putin, not political point scoring, we have enough of them for that but if you want to go down that line constantly then at least appreciate what your own side is saying before going on about the other in a subject like this.

Putin is to blame here, no other fucker and he is busy murdering innocents.

 

[Coatigan]

Belarus is a puppet state aiding and abetting Putin

Maybe so. But as far as I'm aware (could be wrong) they haven't as a country invaded Ukraine. Russia has simply deployed their troops stationed in Belrus into Ukraine. So I understand at least.

 

[mexico1970]

Are you going to Sudan or South Sudan?

Maybe the south , the weather is much more clement this time of the year.

 

[west didsblue]

A lot of people seem keen to make this point but I wonder how relevant it is. We happily talk about the UK, the Netherlands, and the US without delegitimising their existence as sovereign states.

I think one of the African nations uniquely officially has ‘The’ at the start of its title in a territorial sense (referring to the river). Can’t remember which one, The Gambia, The Congo, maybe.

Many other nations proudly have ‘The’ at the beginning in their official names, although generally in a non-territorial sense. Our own ‘The United Kingdom of…’ and various others: ‘The people’s democratic…’ etc.

Your three examples are countries that consist of multiple entities. Ukraine is a single entity that grammatically doesn't need a "The".