Russian invasion of Ukraine

You’re now trying to convince a bunch of middle aged blokes in here whose arses have gone. Good luck.

Tbf, think we can all see the logic to domalino's post. Makes perfect sense, but I guess the reason people aren't so sure is that it relies on Putin being able to go 'I lost and I have to back down'. That's the bit people are struggling to think will happen. He doesn't seem compos mentis, does he? Hopefully that's just bullshit though and there is some semblance of sense there.
 
My neighbours are Latvian and we spent 40 minutes yesterday having a similar conversation. They believe we in the west are being fed propaganda, there’s a different side to the story, Putin is acting in the interest of Ukraine. It does make you wonder how they can come to that conclusion?
It does because they wouldn't feel that way if Russia were stomping through Latvia but that wouldn't happen because........
 
Boris just said the U.K. has sanctioned 275 individuals in the last week. Are you sure that tweet is correct?

There’s only 11 named individuals that have been added so far. I’m assuming Boris was counting individuals linked to entities with that number?
 
Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course, but personally I just think you're wrong on this one Domalino. The things you describe are all true, but they are all problems for another day. The right here and right now will be what's on Putin's mind and I just cannot imagine how he decides a complete u-turn is in his best interests. Maybe, just maybe, the Oligarchs can persuade him, but I just cannot see it happening. I'd give it a 1% chance. Terrible odds.

The problems are here and now. The Kremlin just announced that “The countries economic reality has considerably changed” and that Sberbank has run out of money after a run on the bank.

The stock exchange is STILL closed today, the rouble is at the lowest it’s ever been.

These economic sanctions are not short term issues, they are hitting right now.
 
Tbf, think we can all see the logic to domalino's post. Makes perfect sense, but I guess the reason people aren't so sure is that it relies on Putin being able to go 'I lost and I have to back down'. That's the bit people are struggling to think will happen. He doesn't seem compos mentis, does he? Hopefully that's just bullshit though and there is some semblance of sense there.
This war could force Putin down to his last £100bn and reduce his satisfaction rate in Russia to 50%. He doesn’t look like he gives a fcuk.
 

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