You’re now trying to convince a bunch of middle aged blokes in here whose arses have gone. Good luck.
Tbf, think we can all see the logic to domalino's post. Makes perfect sense, but I guess the reason people aren't so sure is that it relies on Putin being able to go 'I lost and I have to back down'. That's the bit people are struggling to think will happen. He doesn't seem compos mentis, does he? Hopefully that's just bullshit though and there is some semblance of sense there.