Russian invasion of Ukraine

Jimmieblue said:
No … bad intentions towards the UK, no definitely don’t believe that.
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So we send our Typhoons to intercept Russian strategic bombers in the North Sea for a laugh then? Do you not think there’s a Russian nuclear warhead with coordinates dialled into to literally level Manchester for at least half a century? No bad intentions towards us like you say.
 
Keeper! said:
American's on the whole are some on the most insular people on the planet, there knowledge of world history/geography is almost non existent.
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Far too many of them don’t own a passport or have even left their own state which tells you something about their exposure to what’s going on in the world.
 

feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
So we send our Typhoons to intercept Russian strategic bombers in the North Sea for a laugh then? Do you not think there’s a Russian nuclear warhead with coordinates dialled into to literally level Manchester for at least half a century? No bad intentions towards us like you say.
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I think these are all games the warmongers play and then write about it in the MSM. It’s all a game to get our taxes off us and keep up quiet. Over a million people marched in London to stop the Iraq war, they still went ahead, same thing happened for Vietnam. They need to keep the masses quiet. I now do not trust any politician to do the right thing for the good people of this country.
 
blueinsa said:
I think he does want the war to stop tbf but his reasons are not about stopping Ukrainian and Russian young men dying on the battlefield, its so he can put a workforce in that his billionaire backers can benefit from.
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Agree, hence I said genuinely. We know if Ukraine didn’t have rare earth minerals then Trump wouldn’t be seen
 
Jimmieblue said:
What could he possibly want with this rundown country, have you been up North lately!
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I take it you don’t remember all the threats from Russia against the UK?

The threats of attacks stating they had irrefutable evidence that UK troops were directly involved in sinking some of there ships yet failed to provide any evidence.

How about the fact they openly talked about regretting not nuking London when it was the queens funeral as they call have taken loads of leaders out?
 
Jimmieblue said:
I think these are all games the warmongers play and then write about it in the MSM. It’s all a game to get our taxes off us and keep up quiet. Over a million people marched in London to stop the Iraq war, they still went ahead, same thing happened for Vietnam. They need to keep the masses quiet. I now do not trust any politician to do the right thing for the good people of this country.
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Oh, you’re one of them.

If you’d have opened with that, I could have saved myself some time.

Later.
 
Jimmieblue said:
I think these are all games the warmongers play and then write about it in the MSM. It’s all a game to get our taxes off us and keep up quiet. Over a million people marched in London to stop the Iraq war, they still went ahead, same thing happened for Vietnam. They need to keep the masses quiet. I now do not trust any politician to do the right thing for the good people of this country.
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So Rachel Reeves rings the Kremlin and tells Putin to get his bombers in the air as the budget is coming up.

You’ve completely danced around Russia’s intentions towards the U.K. cos you can’t answer it.
 
Jimmieblue said:
I don’t believe we are in danger.
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Jimmieblue said:
I keep asking myself why are the EU keeping this war going. It could have been stopped when he went into the Crimea. Nothing was done then. Big mistake, not all countries in EU want a war, not all countries want to keep pouring money in, why are we? Our politicians are liars and they definitely don’t speak for me. I’m leaving it at that on here, because on a forum there are very entrenched opinions, I just can’t see anything good about going headfirst into a war. Blair, who, next to United, I dislike (probably can’t say hate without being arrested) led us into the last war and look who we’ve got in again!
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Deary me.
Has history taught you nothing?
History does repeat you know!
Czecoslovakia in 1938 - does that ring a bell? What happened next?

Here's a reminder as a poem 'First They Came' by Pastor Martin Niemöllerof as to why we need to stand by Ukraine:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

Allowing minorities to be blamed or counties to be picked off is a bad one. It only encourages dictators.
 
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mosssideblue said:
Agree, hence I said genuinely. We know if Ukraine didn’t have rare earth minerals then Trump wouldn’t be seen
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His handlers plan of regime change is top of his wish list as well.

They want a pro Russian leader in who will slowly but surely cede the entirety of Ukraine back into Russia.
 
grunge said:
I take it you don’t remember all the threats from Russia against the UK?

The threats of attacks stating they had irrefutable evidence that UK troops were directly involved in sinking some of there ships yet failed to provide any evidence.

How about the fact they openly talked about regretting not nuking London when it was the queens funeral as they call have taken loads of leaders out?
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No I don’t remember any of that. I have seen no proof of that. I know Putin is not trustworthy. Let’s face it though, who is in the political sphere.
 
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