Russian invasion of Ukraine

Russia done gone fucked up!!!!!

Hopefully Poland act like a rabid dog about this as they have a perfect justification to. No "Oh it was a mistake" will fly as now Poland have cause to claim an illegal attack on their airspace and, as a NATO member, can call for NATO involvement.

This won't necessarily bring NATO into armed conflict, but it should force Pootin to the negotiation table.
 
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Today's Polish incursions are part of an ongoing ratcheting up of Russian hybrid warfare against the west over a decade.
The reality is that Russia declared war on the West a long time ago. It just hasn't got "hot" yet.
The fact is there is a limit to how many times you can poke an animal before it responds big time. Russia is reaching that point where you go too far.
 
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settle down folk,nothing to see here regarding the drones in Polish air space, its been going on for decades with submarines ,aircraft etc and most likely both ways,MSM currently bigging it up bigger than what it is,tomorrow it will be something else
 
If I was being alarmist Id say this could be Russia mapping air defences ready for a run towards Kaliningrad, A military exercise near the border and then air infractions was the pre cursor to the Ukraine invasion.

Common sense says no chance. Yet.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Pissing the Poles off this could escalate very quickly, they will wipe out Russian forces in Ukraine if they decide to go for it within weeks, trouble is we could all get wiped out then. Trump either needs to stand up or fuck off, let the rest of us get on with it and just push them out the Ukraine. Putin won’t last if we do that.
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The Poles are already pissed off. It's why they escalated defence spending to over 4% - 5% by next year.
 
A drone struck a residential building in Wyryki, a village in eastern Poland but nobody was injured, according to local media reports, citing police.
The Polish anti-drone operation in it's air space concluded at 7:36 this morning.
 
The sad thing thing is that the UK airspace has barely any anti drone defences.
We have been warned for 2+ years and have done SFA about it.
 
grunge said:
If I was being alarmist Id say this could be Russia mapping air defences ready for a run towards Kaliningrad, A military exercise near the border and then air infractions was the pre cursor to the Ukraine invasion.

Common sense says no chance. Yet.
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Certainly seems to me worth a massive ‘exercise’ by the West around Kalinigrad’s boundaries.
 
marco said:
settle down folk,nothing to see here regarding the drones in Polish air space, its been going on for decades with submarines ,aircraft etc and most likely both ways,MSM currently bigging it up bigger than what it is,tomorrow it will be something else
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It's the first time offensive weapons have been directly fired into their airspace. This isn't like a 'stray' aircraft' in their airspace or a 'lost submarine' off the coast. These were weapons of war and lots of them.

Had the Polish air defences not shot them down, they would have hit targets in Poland. The only reason the Poles aren't even more pissed off is that they acted in due course, without message from Russia warning them beforehand about 'misguided drones', mind you. Had they not acted, we'd be looking at destruction of civilian properties and at worst, killings.

If someone you hated took potshots at your home and miraculously nobody was injured would you stop and say "hey, now pack it in you lot!"?
 
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RadcliffeRick said:
ruSSia claimed it as a Ukrainian false flag operation yet?
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Pretty much

www.bbc.co.uk

'What's with Russia violating Polish airspace?' - Trump reacts to Moscow drone incursion on Nato ally

Moscow insists it did not plan to hit targets in Poland, after Warsaw says it shot down Russian drones in its airspace.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

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Russia's temporary chargé d'affaires - the chief of the embassy's mission in Poland - rejects claims that Russian drones entered Polish airspace.

"We believe that the claims are groundless. There has been no evidence that these drones are of Russian provenance," Andrey Ordash tells Russian state news agency RIA Novosti.

He also tells the agency that he has been summoned to the Polish foreign ministry."
 
Metal Biker said:
It's the first time offensive weapons have been directly fired into their airspace. This isn't like a 'stray' aircraft' in their airspace or a 'lost submarine' off the coast. These were weapons of war and lots of them.

Had the Polish air defences not shot them down, they would have hit targets in Poland. The only reason the Poles aren't even more pissed off is that they acted in due course, without message from Russia warning them beforehand about 'misguided drones', mind you. Had they not acted, we'd be looking at destruction of civilian properties and at worst, killings.

If someone you hated took potshots at your home and miraculously nobody was injured would you stop and say "hey, now pack it in you lot!"?
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See @marco 's post above

Listening to an expert earlier and in 2022 the ruSSians fired an unarmed cruise missile into Poland that crashed into a forest in the Central region
It lay there undiscovered for two years and was undetected by air Polish defense
 
After Putin meeting and greeting the leaders of China and India with a big beaming smile on his face - I had a feeling he might ramp it up again, Trump silent once again.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
After Putin meeting and greeting the leaders of China and India with a big beaming smile on his face - I had a feeling he might ramp it up again, Trump silent once again.
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Has he said he’s not very happy with Putin yet? Or said he might do something in 2 weeks?
No wonder the world laughs at him while pretending to be sycophantic to stroke his ego.
 
Metal Biker said:
It's the first time offensive weapons have been directly fired into their airspace. This isn't like a 'stray' aircraft' in their airspace or a 'lost submarine' off the coast. These were weapons of war and lots of them.

Had the Polish air defences not shot them down, they would have hit targets in Poland. The only reason the Poles aren't even more pissed off is that they acted in due course, without message from Russia warning them beforehand about 'misguided drones', mind you. Had they not acted, we'd be looking at destruction of civilian properties and at worst, killings.

If someone you hated took potshots at your home and miraculously nobody was injured would you stop and say "hey, now pack it in you lot!"?
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Thing is if they had killed some, then I think we might well be on a war footing now, Poland would not take it lying down and article 5 might be sought in the UN today had Russia killed someone. How many deaths would Poland accept not retaliate, I reckon their population would say 1. Luckily for us drones I can’t see been an issue unless launched from a ship nearby but then that ship wouldn’t last long. Putin is playing a dangerous game here,Poland will be itching to pay back and the umpa lumpa will be powerless to do anything as I think European leaders know where he stands and it’s not on our side.
 
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