IFAB also specifically state that an on field review is appropriate for exactly the type of incident that involved Otamendi. In other words, VAR lets ref know he missed a possible handball. Ref looks at it on screen. If the VAR needs to describe what happened to the ref, it should be a non-starter. The VAR must have said it looked deliberate to him.
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Schalke post match thread
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Chippy_boy
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Otamendi committed zero yellow card offenses and got sent off for two!
Given he was on a yellow, giving him a second yellow and knowing that would mean us going down to 10 men, can only be described as cheating by the officials. Just plain cheating.
There was no way that second foul was worth a yellow and no honest ref would have given one.
Given he was on a yellow, giving him a second yellow and knowing that would mean us going down to 10 men, can only be described as cheating by the officials. Just plain cheating.
There was no way that second foul was worth a yellow and no honest ref would have given one.
Chippy_boy
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And whilst I'm posting, do the refs and pundits saying Ota's was a pen, realise that players do actually have arms? Wtf are you supposed to do all match, run around with your arms behind your back??? Absolutely ridiculous decision to award a pen against a player having a ball blasted at him and visibly trying to get his arm out of the way
But we all know why it was given don't we, and it had nothing to do with it being a pen or not. It was simply an opportunity to get Schalke back in the game, so obviously had to be given.
But we all know why it was given don't we, and it had nothing to do with it being a pen or not. It was simply an opportunity to get Schalke back in the game, so obviously had to be given.
There was no way that second foul was worth a yellow and no honest ref would have given one.
He couldn’t get the card out quick enough. His eyes must have lit up when he saw Otta bring the lad down
This kind of reffing performance isn’t a one off. It won’t affect us this time as Schalke were dreadful and even if we’d have lost last night I’d have had no concerns at all that we’d go through
What is worrying is that this will probably happen again in a future round when we inevitably meet one of UEFAs faves
It almost puts me in a frame of mind that what’s the point if this ultimately is what awaits us and we’re not even given a chance
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Use them to batter some integrity into the referee?And whilst I'm posting, do the refs and pundits saying Ota's was a pen, realise that players do actually have arms? Wtf are you supposed to do
prestonibbo_mcfc
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On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is 'Never a penalty in a million years' (e.g. Sterling v Shakhtar) and 10 is 'Absolutely nailed-on', last night's were both maybe a 5.
But thinking about it, if we're demanding that Boly's goal at Wolves should be ruled out because, intentional or otherwise, it went in off his hand/arm (and I think that's the correct view) then are we being inconsistent if we say that a goal-bound shot hitting a defender's hand or arm isn't handball, regardless of intent?
No we're ruling Boly's out before that, due to him being offside.
prestonibbo_mcfc
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Otamendi committed zero yellow card offenses and got sent off for two!
Given he was on a yellow, giving him a second yellow and knowing that would mean us going down to 10 men, can only be described as cheating by the officials. Just plain cheating.
There was no way that second foul was worth a yellow and no honest ref would have given one.
Don't even think it was a foul. The players leg catches Otamendi, as the Schalke player turns. There is minimal contact, at that.
But like all modern "model professionals" went down like someone had taken a chainsaw to his leg.
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Did city ask for explanation regarding var decision ?
Has this happened before uefa cartels reasoning about the ref decision next day?
Only a guilty person would defend himself voluntarily with out being asked.
Has this happened before uefa cartels reasoning about the ref decision next day?
Only a guilty person would defend himself voluntarily with out being asked.
cleavers
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That was the view of most of us last night :)The VAR ‘described’ what fucking happened to the ref and the ref overruled himself!?? Fuck off. That’s beyond idiotic.
cleavers
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Its corrupt, we don't know who has "described it to him", it could be the head of a far east betting syndicate for all we know, or the head of UEFA, it probably isn't either, but that is the issue, we just don't know, the fans who've paid good money to go to the game (ours to travel there), nor us watching on TV, so until its fully transparent its bollocks for me.The fact he’s changed his mind and awarded a pen and a yellow “without being told what to do” and from having the replay “described” to him.... it isn’t even a joke. It’s so far beyond parody that it’s not even funny.
I was probably more annoyed about the yellow card in the end, and that eventually took us to 10 men (though it was for me a needless foul, so Nico is a fool), which it shouldn't have.