Scotland Independance Referendum

If the yes vote won would the people in the no camp just sit back and accept it or would there be a start of a divided region after all sectarianism is not a new issue there.
 
nmc said:
We don't have fixed parliaments - the PM decides when we have a general election - with the monarchs permission. Once Scotland becomes independent MP's representing Scottish constituencies leave Westminster (so Scottish voters will no longer have a voice in Parliament). Scottish MP's leaving may have an impact on which party has a majority in parliament - so a new general election may be required.

Wrong
We've had fixed terms since the last election.
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RandomJ said:
sd92 said:
Blueband Brother said:
This is a waste of time to be honest. Scottish independence from what and to do what?, its all misguided and rather embarrassing actuality. I think all those SNP folks should just chill, have a cup of tea, live their lives and stop wasting their time with nonsense.


From being under the rule, by in large, from the Westminster government.
To allowing us to run our own country without having to send money to Westminster, without having our taxes decided by Westminster.

We will no longer waste nearly half a million pound per day keeping trident in this country whilst nearly 500,000 people visit good banks.

Our vote will be heard, as opposed to every 4.5 uk elections it being worthwhile.

WE will take control of our country deciding what is to happen in it.

Fucking hell that gave me a great laugh. You sound like your stereotypical Scott with a chip on his shoulder reciting fucking Braveheart. Fortunately for you the majority of your people can apply critical thinking and understand that leaving would be a bad thing and so will vote no thus saving you from financial ruin. The only people so far I have heard who want the yes vote have been people who are only looking at it from an emotional POV and don't understand any of the consequences of such action. You should be thankful that there are people much smarter than you who can see past nationality.

Haha really? I should be grateful for people with a lack of vision to see what this country can achieve on it's own?

Of course there is an emotional tie, but by no means is that a deciding factor.

The fact of the matter is guys, whether you believe it or like it, we have the ability to go it alone. We have the set up to go it alone.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that we have no say in uk elections but it's a fact. Now I understand a democracy, I do.

However, if you were ready to go independent, and were constantly undermined and lied to - I can pull up serious proof to back that up - and most of all were out voted most of the time, would you not think lets do this?

We have the resources to go it alone so why not
 
If they vote "yes" to independence, does that mean I'll have to pay import duty on my heroin?
 
sd92 said:
RandomJ said:
sd92 said:
From being under the rule, by in large, from the Westminster government.
To allowing us to run our own country without having to send money to Westminster, without having our taxes decided by Westminster.

We will no longer waste nearly half a million pound per day keeping trident in this country whilst nearly 500,000 people visit good banks.

Our vote will be heard, as opposed to every 4.5 uk elections it being worthwhile.

WE will take control of our country deciding what is to happen in it.

Fucking hell that gave me a great laugh. You sound like your stereotypical Scott with a chip on his shoulder reciting fucking Braveheart. Fortunately for you the majority of your people can apply critical thinking and understand that leaving would be a bad thing and so will vote no thus saving you from financial ruin. The only people so far I have heard who want the yes vote have been people who are only looking at it from an emotional POV and don't understand any of the consequences of such action. You should be thankful that there are people much smarter than you who can see past nationality.

Haha really? I should be grateful for people with a lack of vision to see what this country can achieve on it's own?

Of course there is an emotional tie, but by no means is that a deciding factor.

The fact of the matter is guys, whether you believe it or like it, we have the ability to go it alone. We have the set up to go it alone.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that we have no say in uk elections but it's a fact. Now I understand a democracy, I do.

However, if you were ready to go independent, and were constantly undermined and lied to - I can pull up serious proof to back that up - and most of all were out voted most of the time, would you not think lets do this?

We have the resources to go it alone so why not

Really? And what would you do if Orkney and Shetland secede and take the oil with them?
 
sd92 said:
From being under the rule, by in large, from the Westminster government.
To allowing us to run our own country without having to send money to Westminster, without having our taxes decided by Westminster.

If you would go without access to...

The pound.

The Queen as your head of state.

A UK passport.

Then God bless and toodle pip.
 
I think most Scots want to stay in the Union.

If not then so be it, I'm an Englishman and proud of it.

If Independence comes it will be great to see all the Scottish MPs at Westminster leave and be banished back beyond "Hadrians Wall".

Perhaps we could repatriate all Scots that have settled south of the border. After all an Independent Scotland would not be part of the European Union.

That would create some jobs and housing!! Just a thought.

"Keep St George in my Heart keep me English, keep St George in my Heart I pray.........." and so the battle cry goes on!!
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
I think most Scots want to stay in the Union.

If not then so be it, I'm an Englishman and proud of it.

If Independence comes it will be great to see all the Scottish MPs at Westminster leave and be banished back beyond "Hadrians Wall".

Perhaps we could repatriate all Scots that have settled south of the border. After all an Independent Scotland would not be part of the European Union.

That would create some jobs and housing!! Just a thought.

"Keep St George in my Heart keep me English, keep St George in my Heart I pray.........." and so the battle cry goes on!!

Don't forget the 5.3 million people off the books of the NHS and the huge decrease in Britain’s welfare bill.
 
If the Scots want to go it alone then good luck to them. The Slovaks left Czechoslovakia and don't seem to have done too badly as a result. That split seemed to be fairly amicable. No great dramas over the terms of separation.

My attitude to it is more curiosity to see how it would work out rather than anything else. I definitely don't think that currency union would be practicable, not sure if Scotland would be allowed to join the Euro, or the EU for that matter.

It would be a fascinating experiment.
 
Indestructable said:
We would also get rid of loads of Labour MPs, result!

It will be interesting if its a yes vote and Labour wins a small overall majority in 2015. Would they try to govern alone, knowing that they will become a minority government once separation takes place, or try to form a coalition with the Lib Dems from the outset.
 
sd92 said:
RandomJ said:
sd92 said:
From being under the rule, by in large, from the Westminster government.
To allowing us to run our own country without having to send money to Westminster, without having our taxes decided by Westminster.

We will no longer waste nearly half a million pound per day keeping trident in this country whilst nearly 500,000 people visit good banks.

Our vote will be heard, as opposed to every 4.5 uk elections it being worthwhile.

WE will take control of our country deciding what is to happen in it.

Fucking hell that gave me a great laugh. You sound like your stereotypical Scott with a chip on his shoulder reciting fucking Braveheart. Fortunately for you the majority of your people can apply critical thinking and understand that leaving would be a bad thing and so will vote no thus saving you from financial ruin. The only people so far I have heard who want the yes vote have been people who are only looking at it from an emotional POV and don't understand any of the consequences of such action. You should be thankful that there are people much smarter than you who can see past nationality.

Haha really? I should be grateful for people with a lack of vision to see what this country can achieve on it's own?

Of course there is an emotional tie, but by no means is that a deciding factor.

The fact of the matter is guys, whether you believe it or like it, we have the ability to go it alone. We have the set up to go it alone.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that we have no say in uk elections but it's a fact. Now I understand a democracy, I do.

However, if you were ready to go independent, and were constantly undermined and lied to - I can pull up serious proof to back that up - and most of all were out voted most of the time, would you not think lets do this?

We have the resources to go it alone so why not
Have you and yours fucked off yet?
 
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!
 
stonie said:
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!

Indeed, Salmon is not to be trusted, Sardines however, are the aquatic worlds most trust worthy.
 
BWTAC said:
stonie said:
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!

Indeed, Salmon is not to be trusted, Sardines however, are the aquatic worlds most trust worthy.

Salmond is increasingly looking like a fish out of water.
I'm fine with Scottish independence as long as we can ensure supply lines of heroin and shortbread, even if it means venturing to Gretna Green to perform clandestine cross-border activities.
 
cibaman said:
Indestructable said:
We would also get rid of loads of Labour MPs, result!

It will be interesting if its a yes vote and Labour wins a small overall majority in 2015. Would they try to govern alone, knowing that they will become a minority government once separation takes place, or try to form a coalition with the Lib Dems from the outset.

I suspect that if we have a yes vote for Scottish independence, then there will be a flight south, and before we know it all those Scottish Labour MPs will be installed with 'ghost' safe seats at Westminster, and by the next election England, Wales and Northern Ireland will have been carved up to accommodate the same number of MPs we have now. The parliamentary status quo will have been maintained. MPs will make sure they don't lose out.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
BWTAC said:
stonie said:
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!

Indeed, Salmon is not to be trusted, Sardines however, are the aquatic worlds most trust worthy.

Salmond is increasingly looking like a fish out of water.
I'm fine with Scottish independence as long as we can ensure supply lines of heroin and shortbread, even if it means venturing to Gretna Green to perform clandestine cross-border activities.

I can't see them voting yes when they see how much Buckfast Abbey will go up with import tax.
 
BWTAC said:
stonie said:
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!

Indeed, Salmon is not to be trusted, Sardines however, are the aquatic worlds most trust worthy.


Indeed but all a bit fishy
 

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