TGR
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Ronnie the Rep said:Let's just get the damn thing over with and either you fuck off or we have to put up with your whining about not getting representation and then repeat until you do one
Bang on the money Ronnie!
Ronnie the Rep said:Let's just get the damn thing over with and either you fuck off or we have to put up with your whining about not getting representation and then repeat until you do one
ayrshire_blue said:Ronnie the Rep said:Let's just get the damn thing over with and either you fuck off or we have to put up with your whining about not getting representation and then repeat until you do one
No bother mate. Isco signed yet?
Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
whp.blue said:Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
Benefit The Jocks would become non EU foreigners over night and we could deport them all
Also would finally put to bed that stupid argument about the glasgow clubs playing in England
and we would no longer have to put up with jock MPs voting on our Business
A yes vote not only Benefits Manchester but all of England with the exception of perhaps Berwick
red 2 hats said:With the Eutopia that is being portrayed by the little big man Salmond, Scotland will become the greatest country in the world, free health care & university places, free deep fried mars bars the lot.
What the Scottish parliament should do as a matter of urgency is start increasing in size of the wall, because once the Immigrants in Calais realise England is going to the dogs, it's destination Scotland.
England can become the new France and just act as a resting post for our wee friends north of the border, everyone's a winner.
red 2 hats said:With the Eutopia that is being portrayed by the little big man Salmond, Scotland will become the greatest country in the world, free health care & university places, free deep fried mars bars the lot.
What the Scottish parliament should do as a matter of urgency is start increasing in size of the wall, because once the Immigrants in Calais realise England is going to the dogs, it's destination Scotland.
England can become the new France and just act as a resting post for our wee friends north of the border, everyone's a winner.
Berwick could actually thrive, they reckon that because of their unique position they could become a free trade port with offshore financial services, a 'Monaco of the North'!whp.blue said:Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
Benefit The Jocks would become non EU foreigners over night and we could deport them all
Also would finally put to bed that stupid argument about the glasgow clubs playing in England
and we would no longer have to put up with jock MPs voting on our Business
A yes vote not only Benefits Manchester but all of England with the exception of perhaps Berwick
Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
Do you really think the little nationalist Mr Salmond is interested in a more equal fairer society?ayrshire_blue said:Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
It depends which way you see life and equality as it is.
Scotland leaving takes away a % of votes - most of which aren't for Tory. But whichever way Scotland have voted in the past hasn't mattered a shit because take our votes out of the equation and the outcome has always remained the same.
Without patronising anyone, I'd hope that if and when independence is gained, Scotland would demand a more equal, fairer society and hopefully the North of England could be inspired to demand the same.
i kne albert davy said:Do you really think the little nationalist Mr Salmond is interested in a more equal fairer society?ayrshire_blue said:Nightmare Walking said:Will Scotland leaving the Union make my life in Manchester any different? Does them leaving hinder or benefit me?
It depends which way you see life and equality as it is.
Scotland leaving takes away a % of votes - most of which aren't for Tory. But whichever way Scotland have voted in the past hasn't mattered a shit because take our votes out of the equation and the outcome has always remained the same.
Without patronising anyone, I'd hope that if and when independence is gained, Scotland would demand a more equal, fairer society and hopefully the North of England could be inspired to demand the same.
Votes always count if you get out voted by others its called democracy.ayrshire_blue said:i kne albert davy said:Do you really think the little nationalist Mr Salmond is interested in a more equal fairer society?ayrshire_blue said:It depends which way you see life and equality as it is.
Scotland leaving takes away a % of votes - most of which aren't for Tory. But whichever way Scotland have voted in the past hasn't mattered a shit because take our votes out of the equation and the outcome has always remained the same.
Without patronising anyone, I'd hope that if and when independence is gained, Scotland would demand a more equal, fairer society and hopefully the North of England could be inspired to demand the same.
I'm not voting for Salmond. I don't care about him. I'm voting for the chance for my vote to count towards something.
ayrshire_blue said:You're missing the point. Take Scotland's votes out of every election and the outcome remains the same. Scotland's votes count for feck all.
If Scotland want Labour but England want Tory - it's Tory. If Scotland want Tory (haha) but England want Labour it's Labour.
It's not about having the government each individual wants but a country with around 5 million people is large enough to have a parliament which makes decisions for itself. And before you point to Holyrood already being in existence it has little or no control over how a budget is spent north of the border. London decides that for us, yippee!
The needs of Scottish people are not the same as the needs of people from London or the south east.
Sorry mate that's how democracy go's if the majority of those who bother to vote,go for one particular political party chances are they get elected to govern. I don't particularly like the Tories but they have been elected what should I do declare my house independent of Westminster because my vote didn't count. Been working in Scotland for last 4 weeks,first week in Edinburgh the majority were "proud to be Scots delighted to be united" last 3 weeks in Fife and Perthshire more split with young kids poppin Braveheart in the DVD and voting with the heart, the majority over 40 say would prefer to stay as part of a United Kingdom. If and when the Yes vote lose will you're vote have counted for nothing or will your move to a smaller enclave.ayrshire_blue said:You're missing the point. Take Scotland's votes out of every election and the outcome remains the same. Scotland's votes count for feck all.
If Scotland want Labour but England want Tory - it's Tory. If Scotland want Tory (haha) but England want Labour it's Labour.
It's not about having the government each individual wants but a country with around 5 million people is large enough to have a parliament which makes decisions for itself. And before you point to Holyrood already being in existence it has little or no control over how a budget is spent north of the border. London decides that for us, yippee!
The needs of Scottish people are not the same as the needs of people from London or the south east.
TGR said:ayrshire_blue said:You're missing the point. Take Scotland's votes out of every election and the outcome remains the same. Scotland's votes count for feck all.
If Scotland want Labour but England want Tory - it's Tory. If Scotland want Tory (haha) but England want Labour it's Labour.
It's not about having the government each individual wants but a country with around 5 million people is large enough to have a parliament which makes decisions for itself. And before you point to Holyrood already being in existence it has little or no control over how a budget is spent north of the border. London decides that for us, yippee!
The needs of Scottish people are not the same as the needs of people from London or the south east.
Roll on a week on Thursday!
What with the Tories in charge more chance of a leaked story of a Tory toffs no vote piss up on the Scottish tax payer.TonyM said:What's the betting that a terrorist threat will appear the day before the election to scare folks into needing protection offered by a no vote.