Scottish independence

adrianr said:
Well having been undecided on this I remembered I have a Scottish friend who is far, far smarter than I am. He's firmly in the no camp. I don't think he's been wrong about anything in his entire life so that's enough for me.
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I lived in Edinburgh for 20 years and still have about a dozen or so friends there. They are either in the public sector ( teachers mostly) or they are running their own businesses and only one is as yet undecided - the rest are all firmly in the "no"camp
 
smudgedj said:
Betfair have paid out on the no vote.
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Good news for the YES campaign. Some NO voters will stay at home. Some voters will vote YES thinking they can do so safely as it will be a NO result.
 
BlueBearBoots said:
Daz_Blue said:
In USA ... not seen the reports ....is is a likely yes or no ?
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Too close to call but I think/hope it will be a no
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I think you are in for a shock for the first time the voting age has been lowered to 16 and the young are not as scared of change and i think they know this is a once in a life time to empower their country

I really want a yes vote as England will benefit from removing this financial leech that is Scotland
 
Shadz69 said:
Guys I havent read the thread but I was wondering what will happen to the Union jack and 'Great Britain' if Scotland vote yes.Do they stay the same or would they be changed?
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it would have the Soltaire element removed as it is the flag of the union and the dark blue would disappear from the hew design
 
Shadz69 said:
Guys I havent read the thread but I was wondering what will happen to the Union jack and 'Great Britain' if Scotland vote yes.Do they stay the same or would they be changed?
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I really don't have a clue on this doesn't bear thinking about. Don't suppose Westminster even thought that far ahead!
 
whp.blue said:
Shadz69 said:
Guys I havent read the thread but I was wondering what will happen to the Union jack and 'Great Britain' if Scotland vote yes.Do they stay the same or would they be changed?
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it would have the Soltaire element removed as it is the flag of the union and the dark blue would disappear from the hew design
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Thanks for that.There will be a lot of sorting out if it is yes.
 
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
 
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
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This is a conundrum, I'm all for Europe and bringing down the barriers to movement of labour, trade etc.., but I can see how a socialist Scotland, without the baggage of westminster, could be a brilliant rebirth for the Jocks.

Perhaps a fairer, left leaning Europe has more in common with Scotland than England, with the "Little" mentality we hear so much of?
 
BigJimLittleJim said:
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
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This is a conundrum, I'm all for Europe and bringing down the barriers to movement of labour, trade etc.., but I can see how a socialist Scotland, without the baggage of westminster, could be a brilliant rebirth for the Jocks.

Perhaps a fairer, left leaning Europe has more in common with Scotland than England, with the "Little" mentality we hear so much of?
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Can't wait to see all the 'economic migrants' of the EU clambering at the Scottish border to jump on the utopian 'free everything' band wagon.
Bring it on.
 
TGR said:
BigJimLittleJim said:
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
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This is a conundrum, I'm all for Europe and bringing down the barriers to movement of labour, trade etc.., but I can see how a socialist Scotland, without the baggage of westminster, could be a brilliant rebirth for the Jocks.

Perhaps a fairer, left leaning Europe has more in common with Scotland than England, with the "Little" mentality we hear so much of?
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Can't wait to see all the 'economic migrants' of the EU clambering at the Scottish border to jump on the utopian 'free everything' band wagon.
Bring it on.
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you jest, but I'm sure the Jocks encourage good people to replace their own young, talented folk who leave in such droves every year, especially from the more remote communities - an English-speaking, socialist country might well be a place to aspire to live in.
 
TGR said:
BigJimLittleJim said:
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
Click to expand...

This is a conundrum, I'm all for Europe and bringing down the barriers to movement of labour, trade etc.., but I can see how a socialist Scotland, without the baggage of westminster, could be a brilliant rebirth for the Jocks.

Perhaps a fairer, left leaning Europe has more in common with Scotland than England, with the "Little" mentality we hear so much of?
Click to expand...

Can't wait to see all the 'economic migrants' of the EU clambering at the Scottish border to jump on the utopian 'free everything' band wagon.
Bring it on.
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" All aboard, last bus to Brigadoon"
 
TGR said:
BigJimLittleJim said:
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
Click to expand...

This is a conundrum, I'm all for Europe and bringing down the barriers to movement of labour, trade etc.., but I can see how a socialist Scotland, without the baggage of westminster, could be a brilliant rebirth for the Jocks.

Perhaps a fairer, left leaning Europe has more in common with Scotland than England, with the "Little" mentality we hear so much of?
Click to expand...

Can't wait to see all the 'economic migrants' of the EU clambering at the Scottish border to jump on the utopian 'free everything' band wagon.
Bring it on.
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In an ideal world people wouldn't have to leave their families and friends just to earn a crust in countries with more money.

Funnily that ideal world is not that far out of reach.

There are 93 individuals who have the same wealth as the bottom 3,2 billion people on our blue planet. I know what Robin Hood would do. Redistribute.
 
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
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We in England don't want to deny Scotland anything , it's not in our gift to do so and we're quite happy for you to have a vote for self- determination.
What most of us want is for the union to stay together as a lot of us feel it works pretty well together.
The people south of the border who want England out of Europe are a small minority of Tories and Ukip which aren't really significant numbers.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
robbieh said:
A lot of people on here seem to be in the No camp. Just wondering how many are also pro the European Union.

I ask this because it seems odd that many English seem to want to deny Scotland the chance to leave a union while at the same time would be most happy for Britain to leave the Union of Europe.
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We in England don't want to deny Scotland anything , it's not in our gift to do so and we're quite happy for you to have a vote for self- determination.
What most of us want is for the union to stay together as a lot of us feel it works pretty well together.
The people south of the border who want England out of Europe are a small minority of Tories and Ukip which aren't really significant numbers.
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Actually I am english and like you pro european. I do worry about Ukip though.
 
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