Scottish independence

[smudgedj]

Let them go, they will soon come running back.

They need us than we need them.

Jesus Christ.

You'll be able to join the expat club.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Let them go, they will soon come running back.

They need us than we need them.

Once they are gone, there is no coming back.

They make their bed, they can lie in it.

They may vote No of course, but as you say, they need us more than we need them.

The truth is both countries really are "better together". Administering a small but split island would be highly costly
compared to what we have now especially in terms of defence spending. Imo Scotland would be hit worse but
rUK wouldn't do well out of the breakup. The countries united in 1707 because it was in both their best interests.
It still is.

 

[NPBlue]

Let them go, they will soon come running back.

They need us than we need them.

Once they are gone, there is no coming back.

They make their bed, they can lie in it.

They may vote No of course, but as you say, they need us more than we need them.

The truth is both countries really are "better together". Administering a small but split island would be highly costly
compared to what we have now especially in terms of defence spending. Imo Scotland would be hit worse but
rUK wouldn't do well out of the breakup. The countries united in 1707 because it was in both their best interests.
It still is.

United we stand, divided we fall.

I agree with you, but I'm glad I'm not having to make the decision to vote.

Too much brain ache and too much bollocks from both sides.

 

[M18CTID]

Well today's the day. The bookies seem confident that the No vote will prevail - currently around 1/5.

 

[M18CTID]

Let them go, they will soon come running back.

They need us than we need them.

Once they are gone, there is no coming back.

They make their bed, they can lie in it.

They may vote No of course, but as you say, they need us more than we need them.

The truth is both countries really are "better together". Administering a small but split island would be highly costly
compared to what we have now especially in terms of defence spending. Imo Scotland would be hit worse but
rUK wouldn't do well out of the breakup. The countries united in 1707 because it was in both their best interests.
It still is.

I agree. It's worked pretty well for over 300 years and I don't see any need to change things now. This isn't the same as giving Hong Kong back to the Chinese or Ireland getting independence. Despite all the banter, England and Scotland have been allies for over 3 centuries and the alliance has been a largely successful one.

 

[bluemoon32]

Going to be a lot of very annoyed people once a NO vote is passed.
Will be interesting how the aftermath pans out and all the bitterness comes to the fore.
One things for certain, Scotland will be a very different place going forward.

 

[BlueBearBoots]

Will be interesting to see how right/wrong the polls have been leading up to this, virtually 50/50 yesterday

 

[cibaman]

Will be interesting to see how right/wrong the polls have been leading up to this, virtually 50/50 yesterday

There's a greater margin for error than usual because its new territory for the pollsters. Hence they could be consistently skewed one way or the other. Although the polls all seem to be coming up with the same result. Could depend on how good the campaigns are at getting out the vote.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Once they are gone, there is no coming back.

They make their bed, they can lie in it.

They may vote No of course, but as you say, they need us more than we need them.

The truth is both countries really are "better together". Administering a small but split island would be highly costly
compared to what we have now especially in terms of defence spending. Imo Scotland would be hit worse but
rUK wouldn't do well out of the breakup. The countries united in 1707 because it was in both their best interests.
It still is.

I agree. It's worked pretty well for over 300 years and I don't see any need to change things now. This isn't the same as giving Hong Kong back to the Chinese or Ireland getting independence. Despite all the banter, England and Scotland have been allies for over 3 centuries and the alliance has been a largely successful one.

Worked well for who though? Not the Scots and thats the problem from their perspective couple of examples

8.9% of the UK population paying 9.9% of the UK tax take
uk government wants to spend £52 billion on a high speed train link whereas there are still a large number of train lines in Scotland running on diesel
A UK Government (Not voted for by Scotland) introduced University fees which Scotland managed to resist for their own population.
UK government wants to renew Trident missile which will cost between £15 and £20 billion. The scots don't even want it and want the subs removing from their country.........

Good luck to the Scots today 'cos whatever way the vote turns out it looks as though they will be independent soon enough

 

[Pubteam Lomas]

I've got family in Scotland (sister's English, kids are all born and bred Scots), but like me they think Salmond wants to go close and be a hero, but he would privately be a very worried man if he had to back up his promises.

 

[maccadon]

It isn't their decision.

The Chancellor's said they can't and the Bank Of England have said they can't.

They make the decision, not Alex Salmond or Scotland.

The bank of England haven't

Yes, they have.

Link?

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

The bank of England haven't

Yes, they have.

Link?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29133217" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29133217</a>

 

[johnmc]

A little bit surprised Andy Murray went public with his choice. Not surprised with his choice but could come back to bite him.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

A little bit surprised Andy Murray went public with his choice. Not surprised with his choice but could come back to bite him.

What's he declared?

 

[tommybooth]

A little bit surprised Andy Murray went public with his choice. Not surprised with his choice but could come back to bite him.

What's he declared?

His mother is shit in bed.

 

[M18CTID]

The truth is both countries really are "better together". Administering a small but split island would be highly costly
compared to what we have now especially in terms of defence spending. Imo Scotland would be hit worse but
rUK wouldn't do well out of the breakup. The countries united in 1707 because it was in both their best interests.
It still is.

I agree. It's worked pretty well for over 300 years and I don't see any need to change things now. This isn't the same as giving Hong Kong back to the Chinese or Ireland getting independence. Despite all the banter, England and Scotland have been allies for over 3 centuries and the alliance has been a largely successful one.

Worked well for who though? Not the Scots and thats the problem from their perspective couple of examples

8.9% of the UK population paying 9.9% of the UK tax take
uk government wants to spend £52 billion on a high speed train link whereas there are still a large number of train lines in Scotland running on diesel
A UK Government (Not voted for by Scotland) introduced University fees which Scotland managed to resist for their own population.
UK government wants to renew Trident missile which will cost between £15 and £20 billion. The scots don't even want it and want the subs removing from their country.........

Good luck to the Scots today 'cos whatever way the vote turns out it looks as though they will be independent soon enough

We've all got our bugbears though, regardless of where in the UK we live. You're never going to please everyone. I just feel that, in spite of the things you mention above, Scotland will be even worse off if they go it alone. I could be wrong of course and Scotland may well flourish as an independent country but I don't think they have a strong and diverse enough economy to succeed.

 

[johnmc]

A little bit surprised Andy Murray went public with his choice. Not surprised with his choice but could come back to bite him.

What's he declared?

Claims only to have been swayed in the last couple of days but it's obviously a yes from him.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

A little bit surprised Andy Murray went public with his choice. Not surprised with his choice but could come back to bite him.

What's he declared?

Claims only to have been swayed in the last couple of days but it's obviously a yes from him.

Guess if he'd declared No, he'd be asking for new balls before long.

 

[johnmc]

What's he declared?

Claims only to have been swayed in the last couple of days but it's obviously a yes from him.

Guess if he'd declared No, he'd be asking for new balls before long.

Indeed. I expected him to be a yes vote, but didn't expect him to nail his colours to the mast. Fair play to him for doing so.

I was watching the channel 4 programme last night and there was a Scottish actor, don't know his name but his face was familiar, he was telling everyone how Scotland need to be independent and how much they would all benefit if the yes vote won. A woman in the audience said you are a great actor but can I ask do you have a vote tomorrow. He didn't. Some people have no shame.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Claims only to have been swayed in the last couple of days but it's obviously a yes from him.

Guess if he'd declared No, he'd be asking for new balls before long.

Indeed. I expected him to be a yes vote, but didn't expect him to nail his colours to the mast. Fair play to him for doing so.

I was watching the channel 4 programme last night and there was a Scottish actor, don't know his name but his face was familiar, he was telling everyone how Scotland need to be independent and how much they would all benefit if the yes vote won. A woman in the audience said you are a great actor but can I ask do you have a vote tomorrow. He didn't. Some people have no shame.

Brian Cox has been about a lot recently. Think he's pro-Independence and lives in the States.