Shamima Begum

[Mr Kobayashi]

Hard to believe why nobody wants her ain't it.

Because she can't raise a sprog past infancy?

Let's not bring misogyny into it.

 

[crublue1]

Even in the seemingly most open and shut crime cases, there is still a trial.

You have absolutely no idea of her guilt or otherwise, and seem content to deny a fellow citizen the right to a fair trial.

I know your last comment was likely a bit tongue in cheek, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is an element of truth to it given your posts.

Which posts would they be then?
And yes, it was meant very much tongue in cheek.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

We are much less forgiving as a society than we were a generation ago, and are far poorer for it.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Surely she could move in with Cruella , she is the one in charge and so concerned about our national security .

Mind you, she'd probably take her out shopping and lose her, based opon her department's history of moving people around the country.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hard to believe why nobody wants her ain't it.

It’s nothing to do with want. It is our duty as a country.

 

[Shirley]

The atrocities committed by ISIS were horrendous and must be still very upsetting for those people personally affected.

 

[Chris in London]

Not according to the Immigration appeals commission I'm afraid, just as if you or I happened to be born in any other country we'd still have British citizenship.

Wrong

she has never held Bangladeshi citizenship

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Trial by reality TV, she's only allowed back in if she can beat a steroid enhanced Wolf from Gladiators on the travellator

 

[i kne albert davy]

Wrong

she has never held Bangladeshi citizenship

I've no doubt you're an expert in international citizenship laws, but I'm fairly sure under Bangladeshi law anyone born to a Bangladeshi citizen is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen hence dual nationality, unfortunately or fortunately for her they don't want her either.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I've no doubt you're an expert in international citizenship laws, but I'm fairly sure under Bangladeshi law anyone born to a Bangladeshi citizen is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen hence dual nationality, unfortunately or fortunately for her they don't want her either.

They are if they apply for it, which she hasn’t.

Even if she did, she’d be turned down.

Our government have found this loophole and decided to be children about it.

At some point, our government will be adult enough to deal with its own citizens again.

Sadly, not with the likes of Patel, Braverman and JRM around.

Begum will just have to be as patient as the rest of the electorate to vote these corrupt, morally bereft bullshitters from power.

 

[paulchapo]

I believe she had dual nationality before being stripped of British nationality so technically she's not British but Bangladeshi, how many are arguing about her repatriation there I wonder.

I think they refused to take her.

 

[N1985]

Random. She’s British and wants to come home having made a poor decision at the age of 15.

Haha fucking "poor decision"

There's some fucking right terrorist sympathising, leftie loons on here

Sure you'll be all queueing up to give her a good heartily British meal and somewhere to stay for the night.

Speak with some of the people directly affected by the Manchester bombing. Or any of the atrocities that ISIL have committed. See what they think.

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Haha fucking "poor decision"

There's some fucking right terrorist sympathising, leftie loons on here

Sure you'll be all queueing up to give her a good heartily British meal and somewhere to stay for the night.

Speak with some of the people directly affected by the Manchester bombing. Or any of the atrocities that ISIL have committed. See what they think.

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

Legally, she has been groomed because of her age.

She hasn’t been convicted of any crime as of yet, so there is no terrorist sympathy here. I want her tried for her actions, like all potential criminals.

Nobody will be queuing up to give her anything, so that rhetoric is nonsense.

The Speaking with Manchester bombing people argument is like saying speak to a murder victim’s family before passing judgement on a totally different crime.

Everybody deserves a fair trial, whatever they have done. Everybody.

 

[oldius]

A child travels to war zone. She joins a cause, seduced by internet propaganda, and marries an adult man. He is a fighter with the terrorist organisation. She sympathises with the cause. There are allegations that she helped to make suicide vests. She has two children who both die. She regrets her decision and wishes to return home, but her home country renounces her citizenship and will not allow her to return. She is not a citizen of any other nation. She has not been tried for a crime.

They are pretty much the facts of the case and anyone who believes in justice would simply say that she should face a trial. That is not a 'lefty' perspective, in fact it is the Conservative party who often proclaim status as the party of law and order. If one wishes to uphold the law, then she has to be tried in the only country in which she is a citizen: the UK.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

A child travels to war zone. She joins a cause, seduced by internet propaganda, and marries an adult man. He is a fighter with the terrorist organisation. She sympathises with the cause. There are allegations that she helped to make suicide vests. She has two children who both die. She regrets her decision and wishes to return home, but her home country renounces her citizenship and will not allow her to return. She is not a citizen of any other nation. She has not been tried for a crime.

They are pretty much the facts of the case and anyone who believes in justice would simply say that she should face a trial. That is not a 'lefty' perspective, in fact it is the Conservative party who often proclaim status as the party of law and order. If one wishes to uphold the law, then she has to be tried in the only country in which she is a citizen: the UK.

Her husband, a Dutch national, went home to the Netherlands and stood trial too, didn’t he? Basically mapping what should have happened to her.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Haha fucking "poor decision"

There's some fucking right terrorist sympathising, leftie loons on here

Sure you'll be all queueing up to give her a good heartily British meal and somewhere to stay for the night.

Speak with some of the people directly affected by the Manchester bombing. Or any of the atrocities that ISIL have committed. See what they think.

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

Such a weird take. Even war criminals get a fair trial at the Hague.

Have you considered that you have been radicalised online and need to self-refer to prevent?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Such a weird take. Even war criminals get a fair trial at the Hague.

Have you considered that you have been readicalised online and need to self-refer to prevent?

It’s one thing to be adicalised online, but readicalisation is careless.

;-)

 

[Chris in London]

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

no she didn’t

nobody loses the right to a fair trial ever

 

[feedthegoat27]

Haha fucking "poor decision"

There's some fucking right terrorist sympathising, leftie loons on here

Sure you'll be all queueing up to give her a good heartily British meal and somewhere to stay for the night.

Speak with some of the people directly affected by the Manchester bombing. Or any of the atrocities that ISIL have committed. See what they think.

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

What a bizarre post indeed.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Haha fucking "poor decision"

There's some fucking right terrorist sympathising, leftie loons on here

Sure you'll be all queueing up to give her a good heartily British meal and somewhere to stay for the night.

Speak with some of the people directly affected by the Manchester bombing. Or any of the atrocities that ISIL have committed. See what they think.

Fucking fair trial. She lost the right to that when she left and carried on making her bed and lying in it well past the age of 15.

You conflate upholding the rule of law with being a leftie

Do you believe in upholding the rule of law - and if so are you a leftie?