DJRobb
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It will all blow over! Slur Alex will take wazza to one side and tell him he can use Mrs Slur Alex on Sunday nights for a packet of crisps and half a bottle of Scotch, then they will kiss and make up!
Tricky_Trev said:He doesn't want to get himself in an Arsenal situation where he goes 4 or 5 years without winning something. That's why he's leaving now... BEFORE it happens.
Bluemoon115 said:You've never lost it in the past because you've always had stars to replace stars.Buzzers said:I dont either but he would be if this 'conspiracy' had an ounce of truth.
The situation is obviously different from when he left Everton at 18. He joined a bigger club to continue to develop which he did.
As for medals, look at what he's won at Utd and I dont think that argument holds any weight whatsoever. We've gone 1 year without winning the league or reaching a CL final, no club can guarantee him better than that year on year at this stage. People might point and say we've lost Ronaldo & Tevez from them but likewise before we went on our last winning streak we'd lost Keane and were 'screwed', before that we'd lost Beckham, RvN... big teams lose big players... if we were in a situation like Arsenal, on the back of a number of empty years you could maybe understand but after 1 year? Sorry I just dont buy it.
Cantona goes Beckham replaces him.
Beckham falls out with Fergie, Ronaldo arrives (plus Giggs & Scholes hit their peak)
Keane leaves, Rooney's there to take up the role of passionate leader on the pitch.
Ronadlo goes, Rooney also carries the weight of being the teams main goalscorer.
Rooney goes, who shouts the odds on the pitch? Who gets the goals week in week out?
And it looks like there will be no additions, which is why he wants out.
United aren't finished, but they are closer than you seem to think.
Buzzers said:Tricky_Trev said:He doesn't want to get himself in an Arsenal situation where he goes 4 or 5 years without winning something. That's why he's leaving now... BEFORE it happens.
So after 1 season (and we did actually win the Carling Cup last year), where we lost the league by a point and have strengthened, he's off? So is he going to throw his toys out of the pram wherever he ends up every year they dont win the league?
Should he, as a senior player (particularly given his form in the past 8 or 9 months) be prepared to stand up and be counted, and be one of the world class players he's talking about rather than behave like a petulant child and blame everyone but himself?
Like I say, I dont buy it, for me its down to money. If it was about ambition or the quality of the post Ronaldo/Tevez squad then why say he wanted to stay for life in May?
-- Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:53 pm --
Bluemoon115 said:You've never lost it in the past because you've always had stars to replace stars.
Cantona goes Beckham replaces him.
Beckham falls out with Fergie, Ronaldo arrives (plus Giggs & Scholes hit their peak)
Keane leaves, Rooney's there to take up the role of passionate leader on the pitch.
Ronadlo goes, Rooney also carries the weight of being the teams main goalscorer.
Rooney goes, who shouts the odds on the pitch? Who gets the goals week in week out?
And it looks like there will be no additions, which is why he wants out.
United aren't finished, but they are closer than you seem to think.
Beckham wasn't a star when Cantona left
Ronaldo wasn't a star when Beckham left
thats the point, Utd had them young to develop them.
That was before the summer transfer window, when he perhaps didn't have any doubts as to the ambition of your club. Post transfer window however, after star signings like Bebe, he may have changed his opinion and realised the future is grim at Utd.Buzzers said:Tricky_Trev said:He doesn't want to get himself in an Arsenal situation where he goes 4 or 5 years without winning something. That's why he's leaving now... BEFORE it happens.
So after 1 season (and we did actually win the Carling Cup last year), where we lost the league by a point and have strengthened, he's off? So is he going to throw his toys out of the pram wherever he ends up every year they dont win the league?
Should he, as a senior player (particularly given his form in the past 8 or 9 months) be prepared to stand up and be counted, and be one of the world class players he's talking about rather than behave like a petulant child and blame everyone but himself?
Like I say, I dont buy it, for me its down to money. If it was about ambition or the quality of the post Ronaldo/Tevez squad then why say he wanted to stay for life in May?
coleridge said:Buzzers said:I dont either but he would be if this 'conspiracy' had an ounce of truth.
The situation is obviously different from when he left Everton at 18. He joined a bigger club to continue to develop which he did.
As for medals, look at what he's won at Utd and I dont think that argument holds any weight whatsoever. We've gone 1 year without winning the league or reaching a CL final, no club can guarantee him better than that year on year at this stage. People might point and say we've lost Ronaldo & Tevez from them but likewise before we went on our last winning streak we'd lost Keane and were 'screwed', before that we'd lost Beckham, RvN... big teams lose big players... if we were in a situation like Arsenal, on the back of a number of empty years you could maybe understand but after 1 year? Sorry I just dont buy it.
I understand that you want to stick up for your club and are bitter about the 'betrayal' by Wazza, but do you seriously believe that you are going to win trophies with your current squad and/or that the Glazers are going to cough up the relevant funds to buy? If so, I am going to have to place you on the delusional list [it's getting very long] and recommend that you seek medical attention. At least you don't buy this strange conspiracy theory, which seems completely illogical as Fergie spilled the beans first and Rooney has now left himself no way back. Imagine that, 'Your own fans booing you'. I'll just leave it at one LOL as you've been so understanding. Have a nice day and keep up with the medication... :-)
But they were well on their way.Buzzers said:Tricky_Trev said:He doesn't want to get himself in an Arsenal situation where he goes 4 or 5 years without winning something. That's why he's leaving now... BEFORE it happens.
So after 1 season (and we did actually win the Carling Cup last year), where we lost the league by a point and have strengthened, he's off? So is he going to throw his toys out of the pram wherever he ends up every year they dont win the league?
Should he, as a senior player (particularly given his form in the past 8 or 9 months) be prepared to stand up and be counted, and be one of the world class players he's talking about rather than behave like a petulant child and blame everyone but himself?
Like I say, I dont buy it, for me its down to money. If it was about ambition or the quality of the post Ronaldo/Tevez squad then why say he wanted to stay for life in May?
-- Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:53 pm --
Bluemoon115 said:You've never lost it in the past because you've always had stars to replace stars.
Cantona goes Beckham replaces him.
Beckham falls out with Fergie, Ronaldo arrives (plus Giggs & Scholes hit their peak)
Keane leaves, Rooney's there to take up the role of passionate leader on the pitch.
Ronadlo goes, Rooney also carries the weight of being the teams main goalscorer.
Rooney goes, who shouts the odds on the pitch? Who gets the goals week in week out?
And it looks like there will be no additions, which is why he wants out.
United aren't finished, but they are closer than you seem to think.
Beckham wasn't a star when Cantona left
Ronaldo wasn't a star when Beckham left
thats the point, Utd had them young to develop them.
Buzzers said:Wins turning to draws is more of a concern for our defense than our attack, I'd be far more concerned if we were struggling to score goals. We will eventually stop shipping goals.
IMO the most pressing thing we need is an experienced creative MF.
Buzzers said:coleridge said:I understand that you want to stick up for your club and are bitter about the 'betrayal' by Wazza, but do you seriously believe that you are going to win trophies with your current squad and/or that the Glazers are going to cough up the relevant funds to buy? If so, I am going to have to place you on the delusional list [it's getting very long] and recommend that you seek medical attention. At least you don't buy this strange conspiracy theory, which seems completely illogical as Fergie spilled the beans first and Rooney has now left himself no way back. Imagine that, 'Your own fans booing you'. I'll just leave it at one LOL as you've been so understanding. Have a nice day and keep up with the medication... :-)