so this agenda thing.

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franksinatra said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
franksinatra said:
Not really because your response about not hearing this "plaintive cry" in relation to William Zaha was in reference to, and I quote "someone on talksport". I have provided more authoritaive sources, and more influential members of the journalist elite than "someone on talksport" whom we dont even know. Incidentally metronews also did an excellent article about the dangers of young players moving to big clubs and cited the Zaha move.
Your suggestion that anyone writing for the Bleacher Report or Soccernews forms part of the journalistic elite may go some way to explain your consideration that anything produced by Metronews is capable of being 'excellent'.

For the avoidance of doubt, I think I can say with some confidence that any concerns expressed regarding bias in the media, on this or any other similar thread, relate almost exclusively to the output of the national newspapers, Sky, BBC and ITV. Your use of, quite frankly, non-sequitur examples that fall outside that grouping (notwithstanding your nebulous Metronews reference) is, therefore, completely extraneous to the main thrust of the points being raised by those expressing concerns with bias in the media.

Given that, if you can find similar examples in the Mail or the Mirror then fair enough, but until you do, the two websites to which you refer do not serve to advance your argument in any meaningful way.

Here is one from the Daily Mail as you requested. It has everything you could wish for:

Woodward slamming the phone down and blocking a loan, foul mouth four letter rants by moyes, being singled our for unfair treatment, World cup hopes being ruined. I think you would find it very difficult to find a more critical article in relation to rodwell anywhere in the press.

All clubs suffer negative articles its just as fans it is more noticeable when it relates to the team we support.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2541926/Angry-Wilfried-Zaha-wants-claims-Manchester-United-did-U-turn-Cardiff-City-loan.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -loan.html</a>
Fair enough.

If, however, you think that we overall get a fair crack from the British media versus united, Liverpool and Arsenal then you are utterly deluded and I am perfectly of evaluating that objectively, in spite of your suggestion to the contrary in the last sentence of your post.
 
franksinatra said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
franksinatra said:
Not really because your response about not hearing this "plaintive cry" in relation to William Zaha was in reference to, and I quote "someone on talksport". I have provided more authoritaive sources, and more influential members of the journalist elite than "someone on talksport" whom we dont even know. Incidentally metronews also did an excellent article about the dangers of young players moving to big clubs and cited the Zaha move.
Your suggestion that anyone writing for the Bleacher Report or Soccernews forms part of the journalistic elite may go some way to explain your consideration that anything produced by Metronews is capable of being 'excellent'.

For the avoidance of doubt, I think I can say with some confidence that any concerns expressed regarding bias in the media, on this or any other similar thread, relate almost exclusively to the output of the national newspapers, Sky, BBC and ITV. Your use of, quite frankly, non-sequitur examples that fall outside that grouping (notwithstanding your nebulous Metronews reference) is, therefore, completely extraneous to the main thrust of the points being raised by those expressing concerns with bias in the media.

Given that, if you can find similar examples in the Mail or the Mirror then fair enough, but until you do, the two websites to which you refer do not serve to advance your argument in any meaningful way.

Here is one from the Daily Mail as you requested. It has everything you could wish for:

Woodward slamming the phone down and blocking a loan, foul mouth four letter rants by moyes, being singled our for unfair treatment, World cup hopes being ruined. I think you would find it very difficult to find a more critical article in relation to rodwell anywhere in the press.

All clubs suffer negative articles its just as fans it is more noticeable when it relates to the team we support.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2541926/Angry-Wilfried-Zaha-wants-claims-Manchester-United-did-U-turn-Cardiff-City-loan.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -loan.html</a>


Correct Frank, all clubs suffer negative articles but since the take over City have suffered more than most.
You ever wonder why?
 
I do think City generally get a rough ride with the media, I just don't think it's part of a concerted effort to keep the club down. There's too much of a victim mentality amongst some of our fans occasionally. Every negative report, or perceived negative report, is seized upon.

The majority of pundits and journalists favour the so-called "big" clubs and we suffer as a result. We're seen as nouveau rich who are undeserving of our success, but it's just the shite spouted by the old boys club. Chelsea suffered the same initially, but are now accepted as part of the elite. The same will happen with us.

FFP is different. That is a concerted effort by rival clubs to hinder us.
 
de niro said:
Blue Is the Opposite of Blue said:
de niro said:
So why post in here then?
You don't like the thread so stay out of it. Go and hug a tree somewhere.
That's not really my point.

I don't dislike the thread, but I think it'd be a good idea. If anyone wants to reference an anti-City bias incident they can just find it here too.


er like this one then?
The title certainly covers all agenda bases, so I guess so.

I'm not specifically objected to this thread at all or any other agenda thread really, I just think starting new ones every day encourages fresh arguments and name calling.
 
Ric said:
I do think City generally get a rough ride with the media, I just don't think it's part of a concerted effort to keep the club down. There's too much of a victim mentality amongst some of our fans occasionally. Every negative report, or perceived negative report, is seized upon.

The majority of pundits and journalists favour the so-called "big" clubs and we suffer as a result. We're seen as nouveau rich who are undeserving of our success, but it's just the shite spouted by the old boys club. Chelsea suffered the same initially, but are now accepted as part of the elite. The same will happen with us.

FFP is different. That is a concerted effort by rival clubs to hinder us.
Yep,i think this post pretty much sums it up.........
 
The BT sports advert for the coming season All fukin scouse shit I thought we won the prem but obviously not , I don't think there is one mention or clip of City.( no agenda ) fuckoff :-)
 
It's the Van Gaal love affair that had made me chuckle a bit, they even referred to him as a tactical genius in the third place play off which I found a bit odd as I'd of imagined a tactical genius to have win the tournament.

I actually started feeling sorry for some of the British based Dutch fans watching the Holland coverage in this World Cup as all they've done is talk about United.

All very sad and all very blatant.
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
I've noticed in a few of the games where there has been a passing movement involving half a dozen players the commentator has
mentioned 5 of the players by name when they receive the ball and totally ignored 1 player. The "1" player is invariably a City player.
I don't know if it's because some of the commentators find it difficult to even acknowledge that we have players playing at this level
or whether they are trying to give the impression that our lads aren't pulling their weight. I suspect the later as they seem all too happy
to highlight any mistakes our lads make.

Surely you're on the wind up here?

Problem with this debate is that there's always a few that are always too far either side of the fence.
 
spanishblue said:
The BT sports advert for the coming season All fukin scouse shit I thought we won the prem but obviously not , I don't think there is one mention or clip of City.( no agenda ) fuckoff :-)

That was a Liverpool specific advert, they will be showing ones for each side from games that were on BT Sport last season. The real agenda is against Arsenal in that advert and not City, so behave.
 
dario2739 said:
Did we win the league last season or did I dream it?
I have to ask as it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all, and now you have the BT Sports ad glorifying the Dippers..!
Even heard Ray Stubbs on talkshite earlier asking why we weren't getting mentioned!

saw that ad yesterday and presumed they'd be doing different ones for each club?
Not one mention of the Champions.
 
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