so this agenda thing.

[Paladin]

I have just been listening to TalkSport. Their promotion of the new Premier League season features a number of clips, including this interesting commentary.

"It's two nil, and Manchester City are absolutely stunned". Now when I heard the words Manchester City, I naturally thought they were playing a positive promo clip featuring the champions. But when I heard the full clip, realised I was mistaken, but not entirely surprised.

The featured game can only have been Liverpool away. Why am I not surprised that they couldn't find a positive thing to say about us.

 

[wagonman]

Thank you Didsbury Dave...


JJ

 

[blueincy]

Did we win the league? Looking at BT Sport ads it was the dippers. Arse fans must be pissed off at them highlighting their two biggest defeats too.

Should be more like this clip, the end showing us Champions instead of the pan of Popcorn.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-aNzGBvumo#t=11[/video]

 

[Ric]

Just to put things in perspective, although perspective is what many of you lack:

Everton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/</a>

United fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand-up-if-you-hate-man-u-manchester-united-against-the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand- ... the-world/</a>

Arsenal fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932</a>

Liverpool fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/350665-Is-there-a-media-negative-agenda-LFC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/3 ... agenda-LFC</a>

Chelsea fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footballforums.net/showthread.php/278657-Media-bias-against-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footballforums.net/showthrea ... st-Chelsea</a>

Spurs fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360</a>

Southampton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/34912/are-saints-the-subject-of-a-campaign-of-disruption-in-the-media" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/s ... -the-media</a>

Now that's just starting with England's top eight. I could go right down the pyramid should I desire, and abroad. Most football fans are not capable of being remotely objective about their club because they only see things from their own perspective.

Going off topic a bit, but I love this from that Repuklic of Mancunia link:

Fancy being from Darlington or Ealing or Kidderminster, having absolutely nothing to do with United, but supporting anything or anyone that attacks or beats us. What kind of existence is that?

Fancy being from Darlington or Ealing or Kidderminster, having absolutely nothing to do with United, but supporting them. What kind of existence is that?

 

[Blue Streak]

An agenda exists without a doubt. A well known female journo City fan who certain people will know of who used to work for Five Live has told me this herself. Outside of the fans of London clubs the press has a lot of Manchester United and Liverpool supporters working for it and they will latch onto any chance they can to berate our club. I'd suspected this for a while but she confirmed it.

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Didsbury Dave pretty much has my reason for not believing in the agenda bang on.

Too many fans of too many clubs think they're the ones getting the rough deal. We can't all be getting a rough deal.

 

[Blue Streak]

Didsbury Dave pretty much has my reason for not believing in the agenda bang on.

Too many fans of too many clubs think they're the ones getting the rough deal. We can't all be getting a rough deal.

You seen my post above? There is a genuine agenda against City and that's from someone who works in the industry.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Didsbury Dave pretty much has my reason for not believing in the agenda bang on.

Too many fans of too many clubs think they're the ones getting the rough deal. We can't all be getting a rough deal.

Some are getting a rougher deal than others. To claim otherwise suggests that every club is treated in an entirely equitable and even-handed fashion by the media. To me that is a preposterous suggestion. That Millwall get as much a fair crack as united. Once you accept there are some differentials, all you are debating is the extent. To me the bias is discernible and annoying, but won't prevent us continuing to grow as a club. I can deal with it, but it sometimes gets on my tits.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the coverage of last season's title race was balanced and fair? That if Liverpool had gone on to win the title, it would have been reported in the same fashion as our title win. I would say to truly believe that is to descend into the realms of insanity.

All football fans think they get a raw deal, but why is that connected in any meaningful way to whether some bias actually exists to some extent? It is akin to claiming that the existence of people who think the moon landings were fake in some way undermines the views of those who think that the Kennedy assassination doesn't add up. Some blokes think their wives are having an affair, does the existence of those who are wrong about it make those who are right any less likely to be so?

Some fans are right about it, others are not. That is the nature of human affairs: everyone thinks they are hard done to, but, in fact, some people genuinely are, irrespective of the force of their perceived sense of injustice. Others with the same perspective are not. This is how the world operates: everyone's a victim in their own eyes, but it doesn't mean that some folk aren't.

 

[Blue Streak]

Didsbury Dave pretty much has my reason for not believing in the agenda bang on.

Too many fans of too many clubs think they're the ones getting the rough deal. We can't all be getting a rough deal.

Some are getting a rougher deal than others. To claim otherwise suggests that every club is treated in an entirely equitable and even-handed fashion by the media. To me that is a preposterous suggestion. That Millwall get as much a fair crack as united. Once you accept there are some differentials, all you are debating is the extent. To me the bias is discernible and annoying, but won't prevent us continuing to grow as a club. I can deal with it, but it sometimes gets on my tits.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the coverage of last season's title race was balanced and fair? That if Liverpool had gone on to win the title, it would have been reported in the same fashion as our title win. I would say to truly believe that is to descend into the realms of insanity.

All football fans think they get a raw deal, but why is that connected in any meaningful way to whether some bias actually exists to some extent? It is akin to claiming that the existence of people who think the moon landings were fake in some way undermines the views of those who think that the Kennedy assassination doesn't add up. Some blokes think their wives are having an affair, does the existence of those who are wrong about it make those who are right any less likely to be so?

Some fans are right about it, others are not. That is the nature of human affairs: everyone thinks they are hard done to, but, in fact, some people genuinely are, irrespective of the force of their perceived sense of injustice. Others with the same perspective are not. This is how the world operates: everyone's a victim in their own eyes, but it doesn't mean that some folk aren't.

If Liverpool had won the title the coverage the press would have given it would have been bordering silly. It's what they were collectively 'gagging for'. I 100% agree that it wasn't balanced and/or fair.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Just to put things in perspective, although perspective is what many of you lack:

Everton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/</a>

United fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand-up-if-you-hate-man-u-manchester-united-against-the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand- ... the-world/</a>

Arsenal fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932</a>

Liverpool fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/350665-Is-there-a-media-negative-agenda-LFC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/3 ... agenda-LFC</a>

Chelsea fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footballforums.net/showthread.php/278657-Media-bias-against-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footballforums.net/showthrea ... st-Chelsea</a>

Spurs fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360</a>

Southampton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/34912/are-saints-the-subject-of-a-campaign-of-disruption-in-the-media" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/s ... -the-media</a>

Now that's just starting with England's top eight. I could go right down the pyramid should I desire, and abroad. Most football fans are not capable of being remotely objective about their club because they only see things from their own perspective.

Game, set and match then?