Some Of Our Fans

Fanny Fart said:
You throw large amounts of alcohol and a mainly working class tribal fan base into the mix and problems will arise.

You have different types of people mixing together you don't normally get at any other game. You've got family standers in with south standers/singing section.

The behaviour that might be acceptable at home games to the people around you every game might not be acceptable to the family in the north stand or the older couple in the Colin Bell stand, for example.

It's rare as rockin horse shit to see infighting at home games as every one is in a suitable seat for how they want to watch the match. You see it on the odd occasion at away matches but it happens every time at wembley.

As someone posted earlier, a few family friendly blocks wouldn't go a miss when we go to wembley. Can't be too hard to sort out
All very well put Mr Fart and a good idea with the family stand why not have blocks allocated for each stand good idea sir.
 
its a Barm said:
Fanny Fart said:
You throw large amounts of alcohol and a mainly working class tribal fan base into the mix and problems will arise.

You have different types of people mixing together you don't normally get at any other game. You've got family standers in with south standers/singing section.

The behaviour that might be acceptable at home games to the people around you every game might not be acceptable to the family in the north stand or the older couple in the Colin Bell stand, for example.

It's rare as rockin horse shit to see infighting at home games as every one is in a suitable seat for how they want to watch the match. You see it on the odd occasion at away matches but it happens every time at wembley.

As someone posted earlier, a few family friendly blocks wouldn't go a miss when we go to wembley. Can't be too hard to sort out
All very well put Mr Fart and a good idea with the family stand why not have blocks allocated for each stand good idea sir.

All good points but I sit in 110 and I have never seen anything like that, it's just too much booze just like your average weekend in any town centre up and down the land
 
We were in 136 on row 9 yesterday and apart from a pissed up young lad in front who was harmlessly enjoying the day I didn't see any trouble just everybody getting behind the team, seems there was trouble in 137 but didn't see it don't know how I miss these things. There did seem to be a bit of something going on while we were having our half time £4.90 pint at the back of 136 and on the tube back to Stanmore a bit of handbags with a Sunderland fan. All in all Brilliant day out apart from the time it took to get served in JJ Moons there was no chance of getting pissed.
 
Every football club has a minority of fans who are deeply obnoxious, and ours is no different. It's always been like that.

Alcohol in itself isn't the issue, as many of us enjoy adrink at the match. It's the imbeciles who can't hold their beer, who behave worse for having had it.

There exists an abusive, violent, lawless element of so-called City fans who have no respect for their fellow fans. There were a few accounts of City fans being assaulted by these cretins. It was my misfortune to have a verbal exchange with one of these imbeciles, who could not accept anyone else having a different opinion to his own ignorant view of the world. He clearly couldn’t take his beer, given the way he was behaving. He was drinking two bottles of lager in the stand (he'd already had more than enough!) , behaving anti-socially and abusive. He had no respect for anyone other than his mates. Absolute scum.

Everybody else were fine...on both sides. The Sunderland fans we came across were very sporting in defeat.
 
I took my 6 year old lad and we were sat in 550 which was a great atmosphere. He couldn't understand why it wasn't like that at home games. A few Sunderland fans got a few digs when they scored but it was far enough away not to concern him and other than that didn't see any mither at all. Regarding fans behaviour. We're not exactly a bunch of rugger buggers at Twickers are we?? Same goes for all football fans. Essentially it is a working mans game
 
Ducado said:
I don't understand this over generalisation, it's a very small minority of our support that behaves this way, can people stop all this hand wringing and thinking that this is what we are becoming, because it's not true

I park very near The Green Man so I pooped in there for some pre-match Coke (the diet variety) and then wandered down to Wembley Way, which was virtually a red sea, to meet Our Kid and people he had traveled down with. Did bump into a couple of dodgy moderators on the ramp up to the stadium but didn't see any trouble in or poor behaviour in or around the ground, either before or after the game.

I was also pleased that there was no mass singing of "you've had your day out...".

There will sadly always be exceptions but it seems to me the majority of both sets of supporters did their clubs proud.
 
Ducado said:
its a Barm said:
Fanny Fart said:
You throw large amounts of alcohol and a mainly working class tribal fan base into the mix and problems will arise.

You have different types of people mixing together you don't normally get at any other game. You've got family standers in with south standers/singing section.

The behaviour that might be acceptable at home games to the people around you every game might not be acceptable to the family in the north stand or the older couple in the Colin Bell stand, for example.

It's rare as rockin horse shit to see infighting at home games as every one is in a suitable seat for how they want to watch the match. You see it on the odd occasion at away matches but it happens every time at wembley.

As someone posted earlier, a few family friendly blocks wouldn't go a miss when we go to wembley. Can't be too hard to sort out
All very well put Mr Fart and a good idea with the family stand why not have blocks allocated for each stand good idea sir.

All good points but I sit in 110 and I have never seen anything like that, it's just too much booze just like your average weekend in any town centre up and down the land

Yeah alcohol is the main contributing factor in all of this.

I don't think we are ever going to change that part of football culture. We had a lad on our mini bus who had drunk that much brandy he was throwing up at 9am!

You might have some big gob who's got a season ticket near you whose comments annoy, but you withstand it to keep the peace and you just end up tolerating them.

A similar comment by another big gob at Wembley might get a different reaction
 
Well what sort of fanbase do people who post on here want? The traditional working class fan, who after working all week, lets there hair down at weekend, by have a load of beer and a sing song. Or the new polite fan, who whines at anybody who stands up to sing, or acts a bit daft and swears a lot. There is also the much maligned `tourist`, who armed with camera and half &half scarf, is becoming a common sight now that we are winning trophies.Each of this group have forum members foaming at the mouth for some strang reason. I love the oiks and welcome the tourist as a sign of our growing global recognition. tHE POLITE WHINER, no. Just FUCK OFF.
 
Astley Lad said:
I think you've probably got to try and look at the bigger picture, 35,000 City fans and 100 or so make twats of themselves, all in all, not too bad really. Unless of course, like St Helens Blue, you're stuck in the middle of it and have to protect your lad. All of us with kids would do the same and I hope he's ok and could al least enjoy the win. For me, the real disappointment is continually having to read about trouble at games and then seeing that it's City fans fighting each other, what is that all about. A very small minority have no respect for anyone else and no doubt the way they behave at football matches just reflects the way they live their lives. Unfortunately those few twats completely ruin someone else's day and they need to be identified and stopped from attending matches.

Thought about reporting one, but challenged him directly and wished I hadn't. Complete imbecile he was (in 131).
 
Good atmosphere in 538 and the lads behind were non stop with the songs. Good atmosphere and the not too sober near us were of the happy type so lots of hugs and handshakes rather than arguing.

Mackems were good all the way down Wembley Way and everyone chatting fine. Couple of lads at the station were singing "Won the cup and still dont sing" but their lack of knowledge of respect was put right pretty quickly.

No other trouble on tube or at ground so it looks like those who found it were unlucky this time around.
 
I must have been lucky as my day was fantastic from the first minute to the last[Ok apart from the first 45 minutes on the pitch,lol!]

I go to games on my own,my two best mates i used to go with in my youth now sadly no longer with us,gone too soon.

Everyone i spoke to and encountered yesterday was ace. I chatted with a lad from Wytheshawe on the 07:25 flight and had a laugh,especially when we both benefitted from the fit stewardess leaning over to fix the young kid's seatbelt next to him,her boobs in his face and her arse in mine,oh the joys of an aisle seat,lol!

I then had a couple of drinks and met some lovely locals and City fan's in the Sawyers Arms near Paddington station,one young drunken ginger haired City fan hugging me to death and repeating it when he saw me outside Wembley later,lol! A nice chat with a young couple on the train down and another chat later with the same couple who were on my flight home.Another great chat with a young lad from Dublin on the train back who had bought a ticket from a Blue Mooner on here,all in all a fantastic day.

There were over 30 thousand of our lot there yesterday and amongst that many people you will always get some that drink too much or can't behave properly,but on the whole most people are great.My heart goes out to any Blues who got stuck amongst arseholes but that is the lottery of a match,we can often find ourselves stuck in the company of people for ninety minutes we wouldn't normally choose to socialize with.

To anyone who i met and chatted with yesterday i hope you all got home safe and well and thanks for the company!
 
totallywired said:
Well what sort of fanbase do people who post on here want? The traditional working class fan, who after working all week, lets there hair down at weekend, by have a load of beer and a sing song. Or the new polite fan, who whines at anybody who stands up to sing, or acts a bit daft and swears a lot. There is also the much maligned `tourist`, who armed with camera and half &half scarf, is becoming a common sight now that we are winning trophies.Each of this group have forum members foaming at the mouth for some strang reason. I love the oiks and welcome the tourist as a sign of our growing global recognition. tHE POLITE WHINER, no. Just FUCK OFF.

It is also possible to have a working class fanbase who enjoy a drink, city songs and yet do not find it necessary to fight with other blues, act anti-social to their fellow fans and ruin the experience of others around them. The former is probably 99 percent of the fanbase, its the latter 1 percent people have the issue with.
 
totallywired said:
Well what sort of fanbase do people who post on here want? The traditional working class fan, who after working all week, lets there hair down at weekend, by have a load of beer and a sing song. Or the new polite fan, who whines at anybody who stands up to sing, or acts a bit daft and swears a lot. There is also the much maligned `tourist`, who armed with camera and half &half scarf, is becoming a common sight now that we are winning trophies.Each of this group have forum members foaming at the mouth for some strang reason. I love the oiks and welcome the tourist as a sign of our growing global recognition. tHE POLITE WHINER, no. Just FUCK OFF.

It's got nothing to do with working class. Most working class people behave decenltly....like any class.

I'm not sure what class the imbecile in 131 on our row was....but the class of his behaviour was as almost bad as it gets (he didn't hit aybody but he was abusive all afternoon). He quietened down a bit after we challenged him, but he was still a total tw@.
 
It wasnt really the beer that was the issue, plenty of pissed up blues around were absolutely fine. Its the drugs. If you cant handle it then dont do it
 
Zabbasbeard said:
totallywired said:
Well what sort of fanbase do people who post on here want? The traditional working class fan, who after working all week, lets there hair down at weekend, by have a load of beer and a sing song. Or the new polite fan, who whines at anybody who stands up to sing, or acts a bit daft and swears a lot. There is also the much maligned `tourist`, who armed with camera and half &half scarf, is becoming a common sight now that we are winning trophies.Each of this group have forum members foaming at the mouth for some strang reason. I love the oiks and welcome the tourist as a sign of our growing global recognition. tHE POLITE WHINER, no. Just FUCK OFF.

It's got nothing to do with working class. ost working class people behave decenltly....like any class.

I'm not sure what class the imbecile in 131 on our row was....but the class of his behaviour was as almost bad as it gets (he didn't hit aybody but he was abusive all afternoon). He quietened down a bit after we challenged him, but he was still a total tw@.
What row was this on? I was in 131 and thought the atmosphere was great, plenty of singing and apart from one lad who was pissed and shouting up to the Sunderland fans in CW above us I didn't see any other trouble. (I was in row 36)
 
Reading on a Sunderland forum that one of their lads in our end saw a group of blues dropping LSD at half time.

That's taking the drugs at a match to a whole new level. Be shooting up next
 
We've always had some choice supporters following our club. It's part of the charm of supporting City. I'm not trying to condone some of the more egregious matters referred to in this thread, especially where it affects children and young people, but people using a Wembley trip as an excuse to get hammered has been going on since well before our last League Cup win and any suggestions that our support has "changed", even based on the most outlandish things suggested in this thread, is utterly preposterous.

I've seen far, far worse in my 38 years following City than anything described in this thread. Like David Conn, some people have a perception of the past which seems to filter out most of the bad stuff.
 
I had my 4 and 10 year old sons with me, I didn't take them to the toilets because of the state of them, people pissing on walls and in sinks! Are people that desperate! In my section 551 there was a little hostility but nothing too much. Why can't the club have a family friendly section for our now regular trips to Wembley?
 
I was in 130 and two pillocks behind me was goading me shouting offensive remarks but they did not have bottle to show there faces in the end I confronted them and they did not say another word I don't think they city fans they was not interested in the game just to annoy people
 

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