Stadium Expansion (Confirmed)

[flipmode]

makes me laugh that the 'toilet' is an elite stadium
the concourse is far too narrow and the seats in front scrape your knees

But the majority are all under cover, so who cares, right? ;)

 

[squirtyflower]

makes me laugh that the 'toilet' is an elite stadium
the concourse is far too narrow and the seats in front scrape your knees

But the majority are all under cover, so who cares, right? ;)

no where near as comfy as the Emirates

 

[Skashion]

Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?

Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

UEFA Elite 5 Star Stadium Ratings
UEFA European Elite Stadium Categories

UEFA Elite Stadiums such as Old Trafford Manchester or Camp Nou Barcelona must be all-seated and have a minimum capacity of 30,000 with at least 22,500 seats under cover, the playing surface must be 105 metres x 68 metres in width and entirely fence-free. Other requirements are in regard to the number of TV Studios, size of dressing room and CCTV inside and outside of the stadium.

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.

 

[fbloke]

Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?

Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

UEFA Elite 5 Star Stadium Ratings
UEFA European Elite Stadium Categories

UEFA Elite Stadiums such as Old Trafford Manchester or Camp Nou Barcelona must be all-seated and have a minimum capacity of 30,000 with at least 22,500 seats under cover, the playing surface must be 105 metres x 68 metres in width and entirely fence-free. Other requirements are in regard to the number of TV Studios, size of dressing room and CCTV inside and outside of the stadium.

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.

I do wonder how the Nou Camp gets elite status when most of the place is not under cover?

Double standards perhaps?

 

[Marvin]

Any names going down on that waiting list i.e. new seasoncard holders?

 

[tonea2003]

Only 30,000 according to this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wikistadiums.org/uefa-elite-stadiums</a>

We're already eligible. The criteria is elite status, which is the status a stadium must have to host any UEFA competition final. This is the reason we were able to host the UEFA cup final in 2008. They obviously go for the bigger grounds though for good reason so we'd definitely have a better chance with a higher capacity. However, only the Arena aufSchalke used in 2004 would have lower capacity than the expanded Etihad, although the Estádio da Luz being used for this year's final is only a few thousand more.

I do wonder how the Nou Camp gets elite status when most of the place is not under cover?

Double standards perhaps?

possibly, but the size and the weather may play a part

 

[johnmc]

Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

I wonder if once it's completed, and the third biggest football ground in England behind Wembley and old trafford, whether Perry Groves will still think we're a "medium sized club"? Someone should be sure to ask him.

what a stupid question

we were always and always will be, a small club

Smaller, in fact....

 

[oakiecokie]

Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Do you honestly believe that for one moment the Club have not thought about this ?? City like every other football club are now a business first and foremost and a sports club second,irrespective of whether we like it or not.
Companies are NOT charitable organisations and City are no different and we were always told from the onset by Khaldoon,that within "x" amount of years the Club could not count on Sheikh Mansours money for ever and a day and we had to become self sufficient.
Unfortunately the powers that be at UEFA decided in their infinite wisdom to try and curtail our spending as well.
Well done to City on trying to provide additional benefits to our supporters.Unfortunately some can not see the wood for the fucking trees !!!

 

[lancs blue]

Is there a stipulation on the capacity stadium for a UEFA Champions League Final? Just wondering if we do both stands together and a new 61,500 stadium is ready for season 2015/2016 whether we would then look at hosting a Champions League Final in the not too distant future?

UEFA generally allocate finals on the basis of 50,000 capacity minimum to host a CL Final, 40,000 minimum for a Europa Final.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.

you dont pay 6 quid a game though. If it was 6 quid every match no one of thaat age would buy a season ticket. 120 quid as one payment is a lot of money for people to pay

 

[oakiecokie]

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid across 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.

you dont pay 6 quid a game though. If it was 6 quid every match no one of thaat age would buy a season ticket. 120 quid as one payment is a lot of money for people to pay

So do the most sensible thing PAY IN FUCKING INSTALMENTS as is being offered !!!
Unfuckingbelievablejeff.

 

[Anonymous]

I wonder if once it's completed, and the third biggest football ground in England behind Wembley and old trafford, whether Perry Groves will still think we're a "medium sized club"? Someone should be sure to ask him.

what a stupid question

we were always and always will be, a small club

Smaller, in fact....

Yes , we're terribly small , once you get past Bognor Regis no-ones heard of us ....

we're that small we're massive !

 

[6one]

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.

you dont pay 6 quid a game though. If it was 6 quid every match no one of thaat age would buy a season ticket. 120 quid as one payment is a lot of money for people to pay

So do the most sensible thing PAY IN FUCKING INSTALMENTS as is being offered !!!
Unfuckingbelievablejeff.

Ever heard of financial planning?

Something taught to kids at early age. Piggy Banks and the like.

Save up and you'll get £120.

 

[oakiecokie]

you dont pay 6 quid a game though. If it was 6 quid every match no one of thaat age would buy a season ticket. 120 quid as one payment is a lot of money for people to pay

So do the most sensible thing PAY IN FUCKING INSTALMENTS as is being offered !!!
Unfuckingbelievablejeff.

Ever heard of financial planning?

Something taught to kids at early age. Piggy Banks and the like.

Save up and you'll get £120.

Far to sensible a post mate.

 

[moomba]

£120 a season ticket is great, although if your kid isnt quite ready to go week in week out it can be hard to get a ticket at a reasonable price.

Got quoted £27 for my daughter (5 yrs old) for the Hull game last year as there was nothing available in the family stand.

Hopefully when the extensions are done the club will make it a bit more affordable to bring your kids to the odd game here or there.

 

[CatMan]

Why are people questioning how we get kids supporting us?

Don't we have kids tickets for £120? Other than that though, a lot of kids will want to support a team winning things. Nothing breeds support like success. We have a gap as united dominated. That's not the case anymore. It doesn't change overnight though. I'd guess that's far more of a factor than ticket prices.

Because people like you don't appear to understand that a child of 10, even if he could afford or had access to £120, is not allowed to enter the ground by themselves until they are 14.

If they are to come in, then an adult must also buy a Seasoncard at (Lower Tier Family Stand) £450!

Now, just in case it hasn't sunk in, the greater majority of children in East Manchester come from low income homes, of which a good proportion are single parents probably on benefit supported income. In short, the concept of a 10 year old lad convincing his mum/dad to spend £570 so he can watch City for a season is fantasy stuff!

The solution is for the club to offer, a small selection of Pay on the Day seats for 10-14 year olds at £5 a game. The area could be chaperoned by CITC staff and it would offer our club back to the people who now occupy the very soil from which it grew.

£5 a game is sustainable, as it was only 2-3 years ago children in the family stand, who are fortunate enough to have parents who want to attend and can afford to do so actually paid a cross 19 games for their children's Seasoncards which were £95.

Sorry but your suggestions are fantasy stuff. You expect city to allow 10-14 year olds to rock up on their own and pay in on the door? Look this might have gone on 30 years ago but no club in the country would consider it.

All you can do is make it as cheap as possible for a parent and child to go and we are amongst the cheapest. And look we are selling out so where is the issue, we aren't a charity either.

The tickets are £120 now aren't they? So about £6 a game. To take a kid to the cinema is about the same.

And with this can't do attitude and the refusal to question anything did our game float off to be the sole entitlement of financially well off families!

You will no doubt be the same lot who are questioning empty seats in seasons to come whilst scratching around for solutions. You will also still be the same lot who will be harking on about the club never gets anything wrong then also!

 

[Falastur]

And with this can't do attitude and the refusal to question anything did our game float off to be the sole entitlement of financially well off families!

You will no doubt be the same lot who are questioning empty seats in seasons to come whilst scratching around for solutions. You will also still be the same lot who will be harking on about the club never gets anything wrong then also!

He has a point, though. The law says that kids below the age of 16 aren't allowed to go to events like this unsupervised. To count as supervised, City would have to provide 1 steward for ever 5 or 6 kids there. That's just how the safeguarding laws work. Can you imagine a stand of 5,000 kids with 1,000 stewards? They'd have to reduce the capacity of the ground just to fit all the staff in. Not to mention that those stewards wouldn't be allowed home until all the kids had been collected. And then there's the parents to consider. I'm sure a fair portion of parents would be willing to let their kids go to the games unsupervised, but enough parents willing to fill a stand, or even a block, with kids? Parents by and large are scared of society now, they'll panic that their kids will be abducted (not entirely without risk) and you'd get maybe 100-200 kids in that section and no more.

 

[richards30]

The negativity in this thread from some is not only ridiculous but also fucking frightening!! The expanded stadium looks the bollocks........the new campus will be the bollocks........nycfc will be the bollocks......all owned by Manchester city football club! We have players like yaya, kun, silva, jovetic, vinny etc in our ranks yet surprise surprise some on here still want everything for fuck all! The owner and board want to make money as well as success on the pitch as that's what a business should fucking do!!! The more we make the more we can spend on the best players in the world in the best facilities in the world!! Our season tickets are the cheapest in the league with the most expensive squad in the league with an enormous future ahead for our beloved blues! If so of you stopped smoking 100's off ciggies a week and saved the cash it's easily affordable! Why should the owner give everything away for free?? It's a bloody business as well and there are done spoilt wingeing bastards on this forum!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The negativity in this thread from some is not only ridiculous but also fucking frightening!! The expanded stadium looks the bollocks........the new campus will be the bollocks........nycfc will be the bollocks......all owned by Manchester city football club! We have players like yaya, kun, silva, jovetic, vinny etc in our ranks yet surprise surprise some on here still want everything for fuck all! The owner and board want to make money as well as success on the pitch as that's what a business should fucking do!!! The more we make the more we can spend on the best players in the world in the best facilities in the world!! Our season tickets are the cheapest in the league with the most expensive squad in the league with an enormous future ahead for our beloved blues! If so of you stopped smoking 100's off ciggies a week and saved the cash it's easily affordable! Why should the owner give everything away for free?? It's a bloody business as well and there are done spoilt wingeing bastards on this forum!

Well said mate. It's incredible, it really is.

If the takeover hadn't happened (assuming we hadn't gone to the wall, that is) does anyone seriously think that ticket prices at City would be discernibly lower than they are now?