Strike on 30th June

[Gaylord du Bois]

I have no problem with 'scabs' crossing the picket line but when the new terms and conditions are negotiated etc then those fuckers don't get them, they have to get what was been offered by the government originally. As a bloke said to me at work yesterday we don't need the publics sympathy or backing there are that many people affected by these pension reforms (millions) that we don't care if private sector don't like or care about it. If you guys are happy with been shit on by your employers then carry on, we (public sector) are not.

You must live in a bubble of your own self importance in the public sector then. You go ahead then and keep throwing away a days pay, and as salfordpaul said earlier your union bosse won't be doing that, because that's all the 5m public sector workers will achieve without the support of a majority of the 25m private sector workers

So you think the country and government can function without the public sector then? let's see how much gets done when your bins aren't emptied, kids aren't schooled, fires not put out etc, I'm sure the private sector will help out won't they? We need both public and private sector to run this country, like I said before how far would you let your employer go before you stood up for yourself? Many of these pensions have already been amended 5 years ago, should people pay more yes I believe so but pay it for longer for less, no thanks.

Bins won't get emptied - wrong.
Kids won't get schooled - wrong
Fires won't get put out - what a load of scaremongering bollocks.

 

[kronkonite]

I'm still in two minds to strike or not. I fly back from Greece the day before. My conscience says to strike but then again I have a pregnant wife and every penny counts at the moment. It's a dilemma!

hopefully by the time you've got back from Greece you'll be a fully fledged rioter

 

[bluemonday]

I'm still in two minds to strike or not. I fly back from Greece the day before. My conscience says to strike but then again I have a pregnant wife and every penny counts at the moment. It's a dilemma!

hopefully by the time you've got back from Greece you'll be a fully fledged rioter

And if Chrija1000 cares about his off-spring (which he obviously does), he will strike. It's not about the here and now. To the barricades!!!!

 

[Blue Maverick]

How can I be scaremongering if someone is on strike those things won't get done, simple really who is going to do those jobs.

 

[cyberblue]

I'm still in two minds to strike or not. I fly back from Greece the day before. My conscience says to strike but then again I have a pregnant wife and every penny counts at the moment. It's a dilemma!

Think of the long term not one day .a scab is for life not for Christmas

 

[totallywired]

I fucking hate unions.

In 2002, when Crow took charge of the RMT, his basic pay was less than £60,000. In 2009, the most recent year available, his salary had risen to £94,747. But his overall package, including pension contributions, travel costs and expenses, topped £145,000.
Small wonder, then, that he can afford to patronise such exclusive establishments as Scott’s in Mayfair (which counts Prince William, Madonna, Sir Michael Caine and Cheryl Cole among its clientele and serves Beluga Caviar for £296 per 50 grams).
Mr Crow — in rare collar, tie and suit with his green union badge brazenly on display on his lapel — and four Left-wing colleagues were spotted dining at the restaurant this week when they quaffed ‘bubbly’ from crystal glasses — traditional champagne saucers — and knocked back bottles of Morgassi Superiore 2009 Piedmont at £39 a time.
During the three-hour lunch, to celebrate Mr Crow’s 50th birthday, one of the group was overheard joking about the RMT’s ‘Wimbledon’ strike plans. He is alleged to have said: ‘Who would want to go there? The price they charge for strawberries and cream is ******* robbery.’ And the tab for Mr Crow’s bash? A ‘mere’ £650
It`s his money let him spend it how he wants.

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Why the f**k do public sector workers have these crusades to have EVEN better or even maintain their current above the line pensions?? Jesus wept they are so deluded and full of shit it makes me want to vom![/quote
Nowt to say say nowt. Just choke on your own vomit, the world will be a better place foe it.

 

[metalblue]

I have no problem with 'scabs' crossing the picket line but when the new terms and conditions are negotiated etc then those fuckers don't get them, they have to get what was been offered by the government originally. As a bloke said to me at work yesterday we don't need the publics sympathy or backing there are that many people affected by these pension reforms (millions) that we don't care if private sector don't like or care about it. If you guys are happy with been shit on by your employers then carry on, we (public sector) are not.

You must live in a bubble of your own self importance in the public sector then. You go ahead then and keep throwing away a days pay, and as salfordpaul said earlier your union bosse won't be doing that, because that's all the 5m public sector workers will achieve without the support of a majority of the 25m private sector workers

So you think the country and government can function without the public sector then? let's see how much gets done when your bins aren't emptied, kids aren't schooled, fires not put out etc, I'm sure the private sector will help out won't they? We need both public and private sector to run this country, like I said before how far would you let your employer go before you stood up for yourself? Many of these pensions have already been amended 5 years ago, should people pay more yes I believe so but pay it for longer for less, no thanks.

No mate that's not what I said at all. You believe the strike doesn't need public support to achieve it's aims, I say it does.

 

[totallywired]

I've posted this earlier on another thread there is a role for unions of that I'm sure, but they've got to move with the times.

Change or die.

Time to shave the moustache off then.

 

[chris_m]

I don't understand how people can hate unions, I understand the bureaucracy can annoy people, as it does me, but they are there to protect the workers rights, without them companies and the government would dictate peoples rights, take away the right to withhold labour and impose draconian employment law. The only way to fight for employment rights is in a union, and the more people in a union, who want to fight, the more power is taken from the bureaucrats and put to the grassroots members!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Well, it certainly looks like there is little or no support for strikes, other than from public sector workers and they seem to be conceding this and don't seem too bothered. This, I feel, is the main reason why they will fail. To try to present a case to the rest of the populace as unfair, when that same populace is paying them and suffering far worse conditions, during times as they are at present, is a non-starter.
If they do hope to gain any ground at all, they do not need the support of Bob Crowe and his ilk. Whilst shit stirring commies like this are still in positions of power within unions they are doomed to failure. Ditch him and you may start to make progress.