Subway

Considering the amount of atheists on the board, the fact an animal has been killed in a fashion and had someone warble some words over it really shouldn't bother anyone. Or am I missing the point?

I could understand the Animal Rights types being against it due to the method of killing, but everyone else? The food tastes no different, none of you's believe in a god so the chanting bit is of no import so does it just come down to a fear of change? If this is such an outrage, you can always exercise your right to consumer choice. If it you choose not to purchase their product and it then affects their bottom line, they'll soon change to whatever the market is then dictating.

Or, again, am I missing the point?
 
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
 
"The food must come from a supplier that uses halal practices. Specifically, the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must precede the slaughter by invoking the name of Allah, most commonly by saying "Bismillah" ("In the name of God") and then three times "Allahu akbar" (God is the greatest). Then, the animal must be slaughtered with a sharp knife by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck (while the animal is conscious), causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord. Lastly, the blood from the veins must be drained."



Sounds barbaric, but I don't know how non halal animals are slaughtered and don't think I do want to know
 
MCFCTrick said:
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
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Why? Does this mean you can never ever have a bacon or ham butty ever again from anywhere ever? Or is it you are now going to be inconvenienced by going to a different butty shop? Or is ti something a bit more deep seated than that? Whenever I go for a ruby, it's a safe bet I'm not going to get a pork madras so if I want one I'll cook it at home. It's also a safe bet when my chicken karahi arrives for my main, the chicken is going to be halal and guess what? My ruby is fucking great and even more bizarrely, it doesn't stop me going to the ruby house!
 
MCFCTrick said:
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
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If he did not exist how can you be convinced that he/they/it was a peado. Or is that the part of the 'fairy tale' that is true?

If you have a shop in Whitefield/Prestwich are you more or less likely to cater for the Jewish population?
 
strongbowholic said:
MCFCTrick said:
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
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Why? Does this mean you can never ever have a bacon or ham butty ever again from anywhere ever? Or is it you are now going to be inconvenienced by going to a different butty shop? Or is ti something a bit more deep seated than that? Whenever I go for a ruby, it's a safe bet I'm not going to get a pork madras so if I want one I'll cook it at home. It's also a safe bet when my chicken karahi arrives for my main, the chicken is going to be halal and guess what? My ruby is fucking great and even more bizarrely, it doesn't stop me going to the ruby house!
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There's a difference based on the faith of those running the establishment
. Technically every food joint in a certain town could stop serving pork. Should we then drive to the next town?
 
Can i just make sure i get something right here.

Hallal meat (whatever it's called) is just meat from animals that haven't been butchered and slaughtered to death??? Just humanely killed.
 
strongbowholic said:
MCFCTrick said:
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
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Why? Does this mean you can never ever have a bacon or ham butty ever again from anywhere ever? Or is it you are now going to be inconvenienced by going to a different butty shop? Or is ti something a bit more deep seated than that? Whenever I go for a ruby, it's a safe bet I'm not going to get a pork madras so if I want one I'll cook it at home. It's also a safe bet when my chicken karahi arrives for my main, the chicken is going to be halal and guess what? My ruby is fucking great and even more bizarrely, it doesn't stop me going to the ruby house!
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I agree with that, labelling of food isn't required if it is obvious but for places it where it isn't then it should be, some people may object to eating ritually slaughtered food out of a principle and although lots of the posters are atheists, some people grow tired of being included in a religious rite without their agreement.I don't really care because whispering some words over it means fuck all, but obviously there is the animal rights issues to take into account, same thing as eating free range chickens for instance you wouldn't want to be misled into eating shed hens would you? And of course we have to take into account other religious groups who can't eat ritually slaughtered food because it is against their religion. Where it isn't obvious it should be labelled as halal, there shouldn't have to be a burden on the customer to ask. I know I am repeating myself.

In the case of Subway in all likelihood ham and Bacon were unlikely to be major sellers at these stores and Muslims probably made up a significant customer base. It is a commercial decision if anything and you can't complain much more than if you could when a food company changes or discontinues an unpopular product.
 
dronefromsector7g said:
strongbowholic said:
MCFCTrick said:
It's not so much that some dickhead has mumbled a few words about a paedo sky fairy, over an animal before slaughter .... but that it's taking the pork products (Bacon and Ham) off the menu totally in their shops because of the muslim customers ..... THAT is unacceptable ....
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Why? Does this mean you can never ever have a bacon or ham butty ever again from anywhere ever? Or is it you are now going to be inconvenienced by going to a different butty shop? Or is ti something a bit more deep seated than that? Whenever I go for a ruby, it's a safe bet I'm not going to get a pork madras so if I want one I'll cook it at home. It's also a safe bet when my chicken karahi arrives for my main, the chicken is going to be halal and guess what? My ruby is fucking great and even more bizarrely, it doesn't stop me going to the ruby house!
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There's a difference based on the faith of those running the establishment
. Technically every food joint in a certain town could stop serving pork. Should we then drive to the next town?
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If the market the retailer operates in dictates that pork is off the menu, then yep next town it is I guess.

Has anyone any idea how often each day you do actually eat halal meat? You might be surprised at the answer.
 
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