Summer Transfers

Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
but we dont rotate now though. if sterling and sane are fit they play pretty much every game. same with jesus. we play our best player and best team most games, the only time we've rotated really is cup games. i would much rather have sancho or roberts as back ups.
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We don't rotate now because we don't have the talent to rotate. If we did, we would.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
but we dont rotate now though. if sterling and sane are fit they play pretty much every game. same with jesus. we play our best player and best team most games, the only time we've rotated really is cup games. i would much rather have sancho or roberts as back ups.
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To be fair we have navas and nolito lol...
 
We need to go all out for Bonucci hes the one that wins us title and CL easily the best CB in the world dont need to spend fortunes on tons of players , pay whatever Juve ask hes that important
 
Bonnuci would be a fantastic signing. It all depends on how much our new full backs will cost us and his situation at Juventus.
 
Bonucci is worth another couple of years at most. I'd rather go for Van Dijk or Laporte with some fresh legs in the full back positions and start drilling a defence for the next 5/6 seasons.
 
Andy Morrisons jock strap said:
We need to go all out for Bonucci hes the one that wins us title and CL easily the best CB in the world dont need to spend fortunes on tons of players , pay whatever Juve ask hes that important
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Bonucci is an okay defender. His talents are being grossly overstated around here. Watched Duval Zapata just rag doll him last week for Udinese's goal. Not to judge him on one abuse, but ... I don't see the allure. He is a 30 year old defender who has played in the slowest top league (Italy) his whole career, and has mostly being a part of a 3 headed CB monster.

Old, not particularly quick, Not particularly strong, has played in a slow league all his career, and has had the luxury of being flanked by 2 other tactically superior defenders in Chiellini and Barzagli.
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Sure he is a great longball passer. So kinda like Kolarov. But with better technique and overall footballing pedigree. But defensively he is just okay.

Don't know why so many want him.
 
Dax777 said:
Bonucci is an okay defender. His talents are being grossly overstated around here. Watched Duval Zapata just rag doll him last week for Udinese's goal. Not to judge him on one abuse, but ... I don't see the allure. He is a 30 year old defender who has played in the slowest top league (Italy) his whole career, and has mostly being a part of a 3 headed CB monster.

Old, not particularly quick, Not particularly strong, has played in a slow league all his career, and has had the luxury of being flanked by 2 other tactically superior defenders in Chiellini and Barzagli.
K
Sure he is a great longball passer. So kinda like Kolarov. But with better technique and overall footballing pedigree. But defensively he is just okay.

Don't know why so many want him.
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Guardiola rates him highly enough for starters. He is a leader, has got good positional sense,very good passing range (which is what are looking for in a defender), a solid tackler, a very good reader of the game, is strong enough and is good in the air. For me he is near enough to VInny you can get. It hasn't been the case in his career but he has sorted out his consistency in his game. The only other negative is what Juventus will want.
 
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aguero93:20 said:
Bonucci is worth another couple of years at most. I'd rather go for Van Dijk or Laporte with some fresh legs in the full back positions and start drilling a defence for the next 5/6 seasons.
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That's exactly my thoughts with the type of big money he would cost I would sooner get someone younger that can be part of the defence for the next 5 or 6 years
Young and hungry to win
 
We have the EDS for longer term players, but with Bonucci we get an experienced player who is a proven in the Champions League and will help with John Stones' game. Either van Dijk or Laporte are still raw players in that sense.
 
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We have the EDS for longer term players, but with Bonucci we get an experienced player who is a proven in the Champions League and will help with John Stones' game. Either van Dijk or Laporte are still raw players in that sense.
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Neither of them are raw, they're both actually better defenders and more cynical than Bonucci. VVD is a far better defender than him. Laporte is better but can be a head case at times. Bonucci is a better footballer than either. We have Stones, don't really want Bonucci.
 
Lack of experience is a bit of a worry, personally I would rather go for a tried and tested CB like Bonucci, his experience and range of passing would be invaluable considering we may never see a fit again Kompany again, also CB is a position where you don't need legs - would save youth for the FB positions.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Neither of them are raw, they're both actually better defenders and more cynical than Bonucci. VVD is a far better defender than him. Laporte is better but can be a head case at times. Bonucci is a better footballer than either. We have Stones, don't really want Bonucci.
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Both Laporte (a player I do rate) and van Dijk are still unproven at the level where we want to be at, both are playing for Europa League level clubs and both would be at Premier League inflated prices. We can't keep buying potential all the time.
 
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Both Laporte (a player I do rate) and van Dijk are still unproven at the level where we want to be at, both are playing for Europa League level clubs and both would be at Premier League inflated prices. We can't keep buying potential all the time.
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I'm going to say one thing here. Potential my arse.
 
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Guardiola rates him highly enough for starters. He is a leader, has got good positional sense,very good passing range (which is what are looking for in a defender), a solid tackler, a very good reader of the game, is strong enough and is good in the air. For me he is near enough to VInny you can get. It hasn't been the case in his career but he has sorted out his consistency in his game. The only other negative is what Juventus will want.
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Is he a leader? To be fair I do t know what that means. People just say it to describe players they like. He is certainly not leading Chiellini or Barzagli anywhere.

He has great tecunique on the ball and his long pass is exquisite. That I'll give him. And its probably why Pep is enamored with him. I am too when I watch him pass but!!

He is okay at best as a tackler, average more likely. But that's okay CBs don't need to be great tackler to be good. he is decent in the air at best too.

His positioning and reading of the game is good. Bit that is easier when you are often flanked by 2 of the best CBs in the league, and when football isn't played at a helter skelter pace.

So I worry his positional awareness is boosted by the league and team he plays on.

His only superior quality is his ball control and long pass. And this is not what City fans think he is when they talk about wanting Bonnuci. Oh, he is nothing like 2012 Kompany. Not even Close.
 
The window for Bonucci was last summer - can't see us going for him now. We could offer him a big uplift in wages last year but I think he's now got himself a good deal at Juve.
 
Dax777 said:
Is he a leader? To be fair I do t know what that means. People just say it to describe players they like. He is certainly not leading Chiellini or Barzagli anywhere.

He has great tecunique on the ball and his long pass is exquisite. That I'll give him. And its probably why Pep is enamored with him. I am too when I watch him pass but!!

He is okay at best as a tackler, average more likely. But that's okay CBs don't need to be great tackler to be good. he is decent in the air at best too.

His positioning and reading of the game is good. Bit that is easier when you are often flanked by 2 of the best CBs in the league, and when football isn't played at a helter skelter pace.

So I worry his positional awareness is boosted by the league and team he plays on.

His only superior quality is his ball control and long pass. And this is not what City fans think he is when they talk about wanting Bonnuci. Oh, he is nothing like 2012 Kompany. Not even Close.
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He is a strong character and organiser and is comfortable in either playing in a back 3 or a back 4 (which is another reason why Pep might want to sign the player).
 
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