jimbo101 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:jimbo101 said:Tolm,
Not sure I agree with you here.
We all know Mancini has a reputation as being headstrong & extremely stubborn. His post Munich interview showed his frustration with Tevez - stating he had done everything for him 'for 2 years'. I don't imaging Mancini has ever been forced to go to such lengths to placate a player before.
Now Bobbys hand is much stronger - FA cup, CL & Cook gone - and still he calls Tevez to arrange a meeting.
To me, it appears as is him being pragmatic & genuinely attempting to make the best of a bad situation, & Carlos being the petulant one.
To read yours & some other comments on here, if Bobby sticks to his guns he's distant, incalcintrant & obstinate.
If he holds out an olive branch, he's weak & in some way accepting he's in the wrong, thus undermining the whole disciplinary process.
Why is it such a bollock?
You have me confused with others. I have completely backed Mancini's stance over Tevez and his continued hard line with ALL players.
He is wrong in my eyes because he has undermined himself and City with a softening of his stance.
It's a sign of weakness (certainly in relation to who were dealing with) and one which the Tevez camp were quick to act upon.
Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.
However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.
Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.
tolmie's hairdoo said:Mikecini said:fbloke said:Paul Hayward on Twitter -
And lets no forget the actual question he replied to was...
"DOES CT HAVE A FUTURE AT CITY".
I think it is much simpler than this. He honestly doesn't know how the cards will fall.
tolmie's hairdoo said:jimbo101 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:You have me confused with others. I have completely backed Mancini's stance over Tevez and his continued hard line with ALL players.
He is wrong in my eyes because he has undermined himself and City with a softening of his stance.
It's a sign of weakness (certainly in relation to who were dealing with) and one which the Tevez camp were quick to act upon.
Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.
However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.
Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.
We'll have to disagree, mate. Mancini needs to be consistent in his ruthless approach here.
We are dealing with devils, scum of the earth when it comes to football politics - let's not forget what this lot have done for Garry Cook in recent weeks.
People are well within their rights to not see any negatives in such a meet, but we are on here discussing it, the papers have splashed their back pages with it and Sky and rolling updates.
We don't need this. We have three huge games in a week and I would love to know who at City didn't think a midnight meet at the home of our manager would not have been leaked by the Joorabachian spin machine?
Tevez could have had the same conversation within the confines of the manager's office yesterday. All the players had gone home.
The fact it was conducted at Mancini's house is the issue for me. It shows a 'personal' olive branch to someone who should have it shoved up his arse.
Didsbury Dave said:SWP's back said:Dave, you're fucking annoying at the minute, even for you.Didsbury Dave said:Funny you should say that:
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and all the fucking pantomine blues said I was living in cloud cuckoo land.
PMSL (Smugly)
Your current hard on for "pantomime fans" is both cringeworthy and laughable. It's just fans giving opinions not driven by agenda, unlike yourself who would back the devil if it meant you could get a sly dig in at the current management.
Ps- your constant referral to anyone that may agree with your as super duper "intelligent" or a lone "voice of sanity in a sea of shite" just sums you up. You only care to hear your point and will do all you can to decry opposing (majority) views.
Mate, you know that this place if full of fucking idiots with idiotic opinions. But it also has a good number of sensible people whose opinion I respect.
I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks.
Josh Blue said:I agree with SWPs back (For once).
Tevez is a selfish moron and Roberto Mancini gets my full backing! He is much more important than Tevez ever was anyway.
tolmie's hairdoo said:Tevez could have had the same conversation within the confines of the manager's office yesterday. All the players had gone home.