The Boxing thread

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[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

One of the most anti-climatic and overhyped fights of all time.

Boxing doesn't have that "big fight" feel anymore in the Tyson, Lewis days. Even The Prince Naseem Hamed days I miss.

Tyson? Yes, I'll give you that, although he didn't last that long. The rest you mention are nobodies.

Lewis is a nobody now?

 

[leighton]

One of the most anti-climatic and overhyped fights of all time.

Boxing doesn't have that "big fight" feel anymore in the Tyson, Lewis days. Even The Prince Naseem Hamed days I miss.

Tyson? Yes, I'll give you that, although he didn't last that long. The rest you mention are nobodies.

Lewis is a nobody now?

Lennox Lewis was a great heavyweight fighter. Back then the heavyweight division was worth a look now it needs a injection of new young blood aka Tyson Fury , Dentonay Wilder and even Anthony Joshua are needed in that division.

You need to look at the lighter weight divisions. Just look at the Groves v Froch fights 2 brilliant fights exciting and good fights in the UK there recently. I think just British fighters there is some good fights to be made that could well see a great few fights.
At featherweight Selby v Warrington could well be made.
Frampton v Quigg or Kidd Galahad all 3 could fight each other with time.
Lightweight theres Kevin Mitchell v Terry Flanagan or Anthony Crolla
Middleweight Lee V Martin Murray V Eubank Jnr V Billy Joe Saunders
Super Middleweights got a lot. Taking out Froch. You could see Groves v DeGale V Callum Smith. Also Callum Smith v Rocky Fielding has to happen.
Brook v Khan if it ever happens.

Theres some good boxing in the UK if the promotors can work together some great local fights that would sell out and would offer great entertainment if given a chance to get the go ahead.

 

[Maintainin]

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[pudge]

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*Made before the fight

 

[ell]

Any of the usual dailymotions etc got the full fight uploaded yet? I cant get on youtube in work

 

[bluemoon32]

Tyson? Yes, I'll give you that, although he didn't last that long. The rest you mention are nobodies.

Lewis is a nobody now?

Lennox Lewis was a great heavyweight fighter. Back then the heavyweight division was worth a look now it needs a injection of new young blood aka Tyson Fury , Dentonay Wilder and even Anthony Joshua are needed in that division.

You need to look at the lighter weight divisions. Just look at the Groves v Froch fights 2 brilliant fights exciting and good fights in the UK there recently. I think just British fighters there is some good fights to be made that could well see a great few fights.
At featherweight Selby v Warrington could well be made.
Frampton v Quigg or Kidd Galahad all 3 could fight each other with time.
Lightweight theres Kevin Mitchell v Terry Flanagan or Anthony Crolla
Middleweight Lee V Martin Murray V Eubank Jnr V Billy Joe Saunders
Super Middleweights got a lot. Taking out Froch. You could see Groves v DeGale V Callum Smith. Also Callum Smith v Rocky Fielding has to happen.
Brook v Khan if it ever happens.

Theres some good boxing in the UK if the promotors can work together some great local fights that would sell out and would offer great entertainment if given a chance to get the go ahead.

The Heavyweight division is truly fcuked if he's the future.

 

[jared]

Mayweather's best move was taking the fight only after witnessing Manny's steady decline over the last 2-3 years.

The second best was selling it as the fight of the century.

The ring stuff was easy by comparison.

More like flight of the century.

Money put on a clinic there. Even if they fought 5 years ago the result would of been the same.

That's debatable. While both boxers aged the same amount, Mayweather is a defensive counterpuncher, Manny is an offensive aggressive fighter.

Age catches up with offensive boxer alot more than a defensive one.

Pac wasn't robbed in the slightest, money won fair and square but it was disappointing not seeing him fight 2009 prime Pac. It is at least 50-50 for me who ends up victorious.

 

[leighton]

Mayweather's best move was taking the fight only after witnessing Manny's steady decline over the last 2-3 years.

The second best was selling it as the fight of the century.

The ring stuff was easy by comparison.

More like flight of the century.

Money put on a clinic there. Even if they fought 5 years ago the result would of been the same.

That's debatable. While both boxers aged the same amount, Mayweather is a defensive counterpuncher, Manny is an offensive aggressive fighter.

Age catches up with offensive boxer alot more than a defensive one.

Pac wasn't robbed in the slightest, money won fair and square but it was disappointing not seeing him fight 2009 prime Pac. It is at least 50-50 for me who ends up victorious.

Money is slowing down now compared to 5 years ago. People will slate his record but he has boxed the fighters put in front of him and won all. No one likes his style in the US. Saying that hes a boxer and his style is a winning style a born winner is Money I will miss him when he retires. As for Manny and his shoulder injury reminds me a bit of David Haye and his toe injury. I aint saying he didnt have a shoulder injury but if he was injured why fight the biggest fight ever carrying that injury? Its nuts and poor from his advisors to let him fight with a shoulder problem. I think its bollocks that he fought at not 100 per cent against Money too is madness. I think it taints Money's win a bit but no one put a gun to Mannys head to fight.

Regarding Fury he is exciting and thats what boxing needs. He isnt a great but not a lot in the heavyweight division are great. Its a division that needs new blood he is ranked in the top 5 of most of the World Governing Bodies so he must have something about him and when Klitschko retires I would fancy him to win a world title.

 

[jared]

Money put on a clinic there. Even if they fought 5 years ago the result would of been the same.

That's debatable. While both boxers aged the same amount, Mayweather is a defensive counterpuncher, Manny is an offensive aggressive fighter.

Age catches up with offensive boxer alot more than a defensive one.

Pac wasn't robbed in the slightest, money won fair and square but it was disappointing not seeing him fight 2009 prime Pac. It is at least 50-50 for me who ends up victorious.

Money is slowing down now compared to 5 years ago. People will slate his record but he has boxed the fighters put in front of him and won all. No one likes his style in the US.

Nah, not just in the US. Many people around the world hates his style of boxing.

Floyd has even said it himself when he was being criticized; people saying he was boring to watch and fans wanted him to be more aggressive.

"The less you get hit in the sport, the longer you last,"

While that is his winning formula, it nevertheless annoys people like mad and is very unpopular with fans, compared to a boxer who takes a chance to initiate the of fence and is aggressive. Just like how Chelsea is so unpopular and boring with their style of football. People will always like the more adventurous and entertaining side with attractive style.

Also, as I said before both have slowed down, but Pac gets the worst end of it as an aggressive boxer than mayweather a defensive boxer. I don't care about the shoulder injury. I am saying it will be great if we saw a prime 2009 Pac fight mayweather, when his skills, speed and power as an aggressive boxer wasn't as diminished. In my view the way mayweather cherry picks his opponents to fight when they are not in their prime will always be a stain in his record. My 2 cents

 

[leighton]

That's debatable. While both boxers aged the same amount, Mayweather is a defensive counterpuncher, Manny is an offensive aggressive fighter.

Age catches up with offensive boxer alot more than a defensive one.

Pac wasn't robbed in the slightest, money won fair and square but it was disappointing not seeing him fight 2009 prime Pac. It is at least 50-50 for me who ends up victorious.

Money is slowing down now compared to 5 years ago. People will slate his record but he has boxed the fighters put in front of him and won all. No one likes his style in the US.

Nah, not just in the US. Many people around the world hates his style of boxing.

Floyd has even said it himself when he was being criticized; people saying he was boring to watch and fans wanted him to be more aggressive.

"The less you get hit in the sport, the longer you last,"

While that is his winning formula, it nevertheless annoys people like mad and is very unpopular with fans, compared to a boxer who takes a chance to initiate the of fence and is aggressive. Just like how Chelsea is so unpopular and boring with their style of football. People will always like the more adventurous and entertaining side with attractive style.

Also, as I said before both have slowed down, but Pac gets the worst end of it as an aggressive boxer than mayweather a defensive boxer. I don't care about the shoulder injury. I am saying it will be great if we saw a prime 2009 Pac fight mayweather, when his skills, speed and power as an aggressive boxer wasn't as diminished. In my view the way mayweather cherry picks his opponents to fight when they are not in their prime will always be a stain in his record. My 2 cents

Money in the lighter weights was more aggressive as he had the power to be more aggressive while he moved up the weights sadly his power hasnt moved up the weights it never does and very rare if it does. Money was sparking out fighters as a Super Featherweight but once he moved up weight the power went but the skills was always there to win the fights.
Cherry picking fights and not fighting a fighter in there prime is a throw away statement he has boxed fighters in there prime and beaten them. Saul Alvarez was KOing people and Money took him on and won the fight easy. When Ricky Hatton boxed Money he was in his prime too. Then you look at his earlier fights against Diego Corrales. Then you had the 2 close Castillo fights. Also his fights with Gati , Judah , Baldomir , De La Hoya , Mosley , Cotto and Marquez none of them would of been easy fights all former World Champions. Yes he has had some easy cherry picked fights but what boxer doesnt??

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Why are people discussing this fight as though it had any credibility at all? It was a joke, clearly a carve up, and they have had the last laugh by taking home a shedfull of cash each with no downside. The build up was so long that it was on in various Spanish alehouses that I was in, and from the manner of each of them before you could tell that it was a load of bollocks of an event. Very disappointing, but people buy into it rather than criticise it so it all continues as a circus.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Calling Mayweather "money" is cringy as fuck.

 

[blue mash up]

Mc Donnell fights Kameda at weekend and there is a card from Birmingham featuring Joshua and Rose.

 

[buckshot]

Why are people discussing this fight as though it had any credibility at all? It was a joke, clearly a carve up, and they have had the last laugh by taking home a shedfull of cash each with no downside. The build up was so long that it was on in various Spanish alehouses that I was in, and from the manner of each of them before you could tell that it was a load of bollocks of an event. Very disappointing, but people buy into it rather than criticise it so it all continues as a circus.

If it was a ca eve up then Manny would have won a close decision and they both would have doubled their money on a rematch,

 

[leighton]

Mc Donnell fights Kameda at weekend and there is a card from Birmingham featuring Joshua and Rose.

The 2 American fights are good. This weekend with McDonnell and Burns fighting. The Birmingham card isnt great. Matt Macklin and Callum Smith are all fighting on the bill but against nobodies which is sad. Callum needs a test get him in with Rocky Fielding the worst card ever by Matchroom. AJ fighting a bum headlining it. I cant blame Frankie Gavin who was supposed to headline it he is fighting Kell Brook instead. There 30th of May card will be there best card of the year. 3 world title fights a shame it will be on SKY PPV.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Why are people discussing this fight as though it had any credibility at all? It was a joke, clearly a carve up, and they have had the last laugh by taking home a shedfull of cash each with no downside. The build up was so long that it was on in various Spanish alehouses that I was in, and from the manner of each of them before you could tell that it was a load of bollocks of an event. Very disappointing, but people buy into it rather than criticise it so it all continues as a circus.

If it was a ca eve up then Manny would have won a close decision and they both would have doubled their money on a rematch,

Doesnt matter who won, that would apply, and this will always happen. In fact, I think it has been discussed already. Quelle surprise.

 

[peoffrey]

Interesting to see both Saunders and Eubank Jr withdrawn from Saturday at Wembley Arena. I imagine there'll be some disappointed fans as they're both entertaining fighters. Rumours are abound of a rematch between the two at Upton Park in the summer. I'm East London based and would fancy going. This is going to sound awful but is Saunders likely to attract a certain following because of his background? My locals won't serve them when they're around because they're trouble.

 

[ell]

Mc Donnell fights Kameda at weekend and there is a card from Birmingham featuring Joshua and Rose.

The 2 American fights are good. This weekend with McDonnell and Burns fighting. The Birmingham card isnt great. Matt Macklin and Callum Smith are all fighting on the bill but against nobodies which is sad. Callum needs a test get him in with Rocky Fielding the worst card ever by Matchroom. AJ fighting a bum headlining it. I cant blame Frankie Gavin who was supposed to headline it he is fighting Kell Brook instead. There 30th of May card will be there best card of the year. 3 world title fights a shame it will be on SKY PPV.

I havent even bothered to look at this weekends card, is it even worse than the Geordie bore one from last month?

Matchroom are becoming a joke, it was only a few months ago they charged PPV for Bellew versus Cleverley for fuck sake.

As for the May 30th card, I dont even think thats great. Mitchell/Selby in good fights and if it was Brook vs a live body it would certainly be interesting but instead hes in with a commonwealth level fighter who got found out by Bundu

 

[leighton]

Mc Donnell fights Kameda at weekend and there is a card from Birmingham featuring Joshua and Rose.

The 2 American fights are good. This weekend with McDonnell and Burns fighting. The Birmingham card isnt great. Matt Macklin and Callum Smith are all fighting on the bill but against nobodies which is sad. Callum needs a test get him in with Rocky Fielding the worst card ever by Matchroom. AJ fighting a bum headlining it. I cant blame Frankie Gavin who was supposed to headline it he is fighting Kell Brook instead. There 30th of May card will be there best card of the year. 3 world title fights a shame it will be on SKY PPV.

I havent even bothered to look at this weekends card, is it even worse than the Geordie bore one from last month?

Matchroom are becoming a joke, it was only a few months ago they charged PPV for Bellew versus Cleverley for fuck sake.

As for the May 30th card, I dont even think thats great. Mitchell/Selby in good fights and if it was Brook vs a live body it would certainly be interesting but instead hes in with a commonwealth level fighter who got found out by Bundu

Well I would compare it to the same as the Geordie bore from last month. They have some pretty decent fighters on it but it seems all are fighting warm up fights.
You have the Yafai brothers fighting both look good like Khalid Yafai he is the flyweight him v Paul Butler would be a good fight but unlikely to happen.
Luke Campbell is due to fight TBA. Matt Macklin v Ferenc Albert , AJ V Brazilian fighter. The only 12 rounder is Sam Eggington v Joseph Lamptey Also Callum Smith fights too. I dont see them showing much of this card to be honest. They will show AJ , Smith , Campbell and Macklin and more than likely show the Burns and McDonnell fights from the US which is a better fights to watch so its not as bad as it should be for Skys Boxing coverage to have the 2 fighting in the US.