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[leighton]

That fight should of happend years ago Khan and Warren avoided this fight for so long. I cant see Khan dropping down for the fight and I wouldnt like to see Murray move up to fight Khan IF he is not struggling to make the weight there is no reason why he needs to jump up a divison just yet.

While Paulie still seems to be in talks with the Khan team. Hes only offering Paulie £150,000 for the fight which isnt a lot of money for a World title fight. When you think about the money that the fight will make give or take £3 to 5 million when they take in PPV sales and fight tickets. So you can see why they are looking for a better deal. Peterson was looking for 4 times that for the fight with Khan.
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Khan's just been on SSN, saying if mcCloskey was confident of winning, he'd take whatever purse, just to get his hands on the world title. I agree with that.

Its bullshit mate. Do you think when Khan boxed for the World title he boxed for £150,000? They are making a decent amount of money out of this fight and if they were to offer Paulie another £100,000 on top of that then the deal would be signed and sealed. Paulie will fight for a World title this year if the Khan deal does not come off but it is a Business and you get the best deal thats out there and sign it.

 

[conormcfc]

Its bullshit mate. Do you think when Khan boxed for the World title he boxed for £150,000? They are making a decent amount of money out of this fight and if they were to offer Paulie another £100,000 on top of that then the deal would be signed and sealed. Paulie will fight for a World title this year if the Khan deal does not come off but it is a Business and you get the best deal thats out there and sign it.

150k is way more than McCloskey has ever earned in any fight though. It's probably more than he'll make fighting for the vacant belt as well.

 

[conormcfc]

http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-mormeck-rematch-being-explored-by-adam-booth--35075

Come on now.

 

[leighton]

Its bullshit mate. Do you think when Khan boxed for the World title he boxed for £150,000? They are making a decent amount of money out of this fight and if they were to offer Paulie another £100,000 on top of that then the deal would be signed and sealed. Paulie will fight for a World title this year if the Khan deal does not come off but it is a Business and you get the best deal thats out there and sign it.

150k is way more than McCloskey has ever earned in any fight though. It's probably more than he'll make fighting for the vacant belt as well.

Khans offering peanuts thats why he is finding it hard to find someone to fight. Its a good fight for Khan Paul's not a huge puncher and in a way isnt a huge risk fight for Khan. I rate Paulie highly and feel he has a world championship in him. It might not be against Khan but you just never know with boxing IF Khans mind is on another fight Paulie could well get the upset win.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Its bullshit mate. Do you think when Khan boxed for the World title he boxed for £150,000? They are making a decent amount of money out of this fight and if they were to offer Paulie another £100,000 on top of that then the deal would be signed and sealed. Paulie will fight for a World title this year if the Khan deal does not come off but it is a Business and you get the best deal thats out there and sign it.

150k is way more than McCloskey has ever earned in any fight though. It's probably more than he'll make fighting for the vacant belt as well.

but if McCloskey won a world title, his stock rises so Khan would have to pay him even more in an unification match.

 

[leighton]

150k is way more than McCloskey has ever earned in any fight though. It's probably more than he'll make fighting for the vacant belt as well.

but if McCloskey won a world title, his stock rises so Khan would have to pay him even more in an unification match.

That could well happen. IF the fight does not go ahead. Paulie will fight for a world title this summer if he wins it he can demand more than what he is looking for. The press beleive Khan v Alexander or Bradley late Summer. By the end of the year if Khan wants to unify the division and its against Paulie it could well cost close to £1 million with it being to unify the division so take a early hit or have to fork out big money late summer and end of the year. Thats boxing for you.,

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

but if McCloskey won a world title, his stock rises so Khan would have to pay him even more in an unification match.

That could well happen. IF the fight does not go ahead. Paulie will fight for a world title this summer if he wins it he can demand more than what he is looking for. The press beleive Khan v Alexander or Bradley late Summer. By the end of the year if Khan wants to unify the division and its against Paulie it could well cost close to £1 million with it being to unify the division so take a early hit or have to fork out big money late summer and end of the year. Thats boxing for you.,

who have they got lined up for the vacant title? Couldn't Khan say I'll pay you what you want now but let's stick that vacant belt on the line too?

 

[SuperKevinHorlock]

Cheers mate do you think Flanagan is a serious prospect?

Napa would have been a good barometer of where the lads at presently IMO. Napa lost his European bantamweight title to Jamie McDonald (Top of the bill on the Doncaster card who made a cracking second defence on saturday beating Belgian boxer Stephan Jamoye in a close contest with scores of 115-113 114-113 114-114 despite having a point deducted in the 11th round ) on a split decision, Jan 2010.Flannagans corner seems to be going for some big names. Fair play and good luck to them. I hope they do well and are successful.

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Thanks again mate, my brother knows his old man.

 

[glen quagmire]

Leighton, I WOULD fight khan for a tenner! Why should he get £100,000? He's not a big name, outside of Ireland. Fighting khan, (who i hate) would do nothing but raise his profile, win, lose or draw.

 

[leighton]

[/quote]who have they got lined up for the vacant title? Couldn't Khan say I'll pay you what you want now but let's stick that vacant belt on the line too?[/quote]

The title has yet to become vacant. It will more than likely happen as Alexander v Bradley this weekend I think Bradleys title will be dropped as he wouldnt have defended it in so much time. Meaning the Ajose Olusegun v Ali Chebah fight is for the WBC title its a eliminator fight. So the winner of that fight will fight the next in line which is McCloskey for the vacant belt in the late summer time. So if Khan was to fight someone else and win that fight then fight the winner of Bradley v Alexander in the summer time. It would mean there will be 1 title left to win before he moves up a division. Its boxing politics.

Leighton, I WOULD fight khan for a tenner! Why should he get £100,000? He's not a big name, outside of Ireland. Fighting khan, (who i hate) would do nothing but raise his profile, win, lose or draw.

You might not think he is a big name but he is ranked highly in all of the World Rankings I think he is in the Rings top 10 fighters in the weight division and is unbeaten. Just because he hasnt had the backing of a Frank Warren over the years like Khan. Any World title fight would raise the profile of the fighters involved a good preformace will get more big fights. The money he was offered in there view was not good enough. He has been on Sky for the best part of 2 years now so he has a following yes the Irish fight fans would know of him but just because the English fight fans dont know of him doesnt mean he should sell himself short.
Irelands boxing is on the rise now we have some talented fighters that you wouldnt know of who could become top class fighters that SKY dont show they are topping bills over here and are doing very well and get good pay days so if they are not offered the money they think they deserve it will drag on a bit its a business at the end of the day.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Jesus i was just on SSN website and saw that Holyfields fight got called a no contest due to a cut at the weekend.

Now i admire his heart if not his stupidity and im led to believe he still fighting due to the fact that he is now bankrupt but surely there should be an age cap, he is 48 and really is embarrasing himself if not boxing. He needs to give it up or have his licence taken away for his own well being other wise his story could have a tragic ending

 

[ono]

Jesus i was just on SSN website and saw that Holyfields fight got called a no contest due to a cut at the weekend.

Now i admire his heart if not his stupidity and im led to believe he still fighting due to the fact that he is now bankrupt but surely there should be an age cap, he is 48 and really is embarrasing himself if not boxing. He needs to give it up or have his licence taken away for his own well being other wise his story could have a tragic ending

Trouble is, he isn't really any shitter than the vast majority of the rest of the heavyweight contenders.

 

[ono]

150k is way more than McCloskey has ever earned in any fight though. It's probably more than he'll make fighting for the vacant belt as well.

Khans offering peanuts thats why he is finding it hard to find someone to fight. Its a good fight for Khan Paul's not a huge puncher and in a way isnt a huge risk fight for Khan. I rate Paulie highly and feel he has a world championship in him. It might not be against Khan but you just never know with boxing IF Khans mind is on another fight Paulie could well get the upset win.

Lol, but how much does McCloskey think he's going to earn by fighting to Ajose Olusegun?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Jesus i was just on SSN website and saw that Holyfields fight got called a no contest due to a cut at the weekend.

Now i admire his heart if not his stupidity and im led to believe he still fighting due to the fact that he is now bankrupt but surely there should be an age cap, he is 48 and really is embarrasing himself if not boxing. He needs to give it up or have his licence taken away for his own well being other wise his story could have a tragic ending

Trouble is, he isn't really any shitter than the vast majority of the rest of the heavyweight contenders.

Well he is pretty terrible i dont think he could go 2 rounds with any of the top 10. More worried that at his age a big blow to the head is more devastating than a 26yr old taking the same blow

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Napa would have been a good barometer of where the lads at presently IMO. Napa lost his European bantamweight title to Jamie McDonald (Top of the bill on the Doncaster card who made a cracking second defence on saturday beating Belgian boxer Stephan Jamoye in a close contest with scores of 115-113 114-113 114-114 despite having a point deducted in the 11th round ) on a split decision, Jan 2010.Flannagans corner seems to be going for some big names. Fair play and good luck to them. I hope they do well and are successful.

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Thanks again mate, my brother knows his old man.

McDonnell would get KO'd if he fought anyone with a slightly bigger punch than Jamoye, he was all over the place at times in that fight,and they're talking of him going up to world level, not a chance in my book.

 

[glen quagmire]

who have they got lined up for the vacant title? Couldn't Khan say I'll pay you what you want now but let's stick that vacant belt on the line too?[/quote]

The title has yet to become vacant. It will more than likely happen as Alexander v Bradley this weekend I think Bradleys title will be dropped as he wouldnt have defended it in so much time. Meaning the Ajose Olusegun v Ali Chebah fight is for the WBC title its a eliminator fight. So the winner of that fight will fight the next in line which is McCloskey for the vacant belt in the late summer time. So if Khan was to fight someone else and win that fight then fight the winner of Bradley v Alexander in the summer time. It would mean there will be 1 title left to win before he moves up a division. Its boxing politics.

Leighton, I WOULD fight khan for a tenner! Why should he get £100,000? He's not a big name, outside of Ireland. Fighting khan, (who i hate) would do nothing but raise his profile, win, lose or draw.

You might not think he is a big name but he is ranked highly in all of the World Rankings I think he is in the Rings top 10 fighters in the weight division and is unbeaten. Just because he hasnt had the backing of a Frank Warren over the years like Khan. Any World title fight would raise the profile of the fighters involved a good preformace will get more big fights. The money he was offered in there view was not good enough. He has been on Sky for the best part of 2 years now so he has a following yes the Irish fight fans would know of him but just because the English fight fans dont know of him doesnt mean he should sell himself short.
Irelands boxing is on the rise now we have some talented fighters that you wouldnt know of who could become top class fighters that SKY dont show they are topping bills over here and are doing very well and get good pay days so if they are not offered the money they think they deserve it will drag on a bit its a business at the end of the day.[/quote]


No leighton, i understand about regional fighters, as a boxing fanatic, i am aware that Ireland's boxing scene is on the up. However, this is a very famous boxer, a worldwide audience and more money than he's ever got before. I don't rate mcCloskey as highly as you, but i do think if he 'boxes' khan, he could sneak it over the 12 rounds.

 

[leighton]

Khans offering peanuts thats why he is finding it hard to find someone to fight. Its a good fight for Khan Paul's not a huge puncher and in a way isnt a huge risk fight for Khan. I rate Paulie highly and feel he has a world championship in him. It might not be against Khan but you just never know with boxing IF Khans mind is on another fight Paulie could well get the upset win.

Lol, but how much does McCloskey think he's going to earn by fighting to Ajose Olusegun?

It would depend on who wins the purse bids for the fight? Yes he wouldnt get as much as fighting Khan you would think. IF he wins a title and then Khan comes looking for the fight then it will cost them a hell of a lot more than what is on the table at the moment. We will find out some time this week for who Khan fights.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Thanks again mate, my brother knows his old man.

McDonnell would get KO'd if he fought anyone with a slightly bigger punch than Jamoye, he was all over the place at times in that fight,and they're talking of him going up to world level, not a chance in my book.

Got to agree with this he leads with his head the time pushing with it, a big puncher would of taken his head off if he kept doing that, i was glad he got a point deducted for that and after he did proceeded to carry on doing it because he knew the guy didnt know what to do when he did

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

who have they got lined up for the vacant title? Couldn't Khan say I'll pay you what you want now but let's stick that vacant belt on the line too?

The title has yet to become vacant. It will more than likely happen as Alexander v Bradley this weekend I think Bradleys title will be dropped as he wouldnt have defended it in so much time. Meaning the Ajose Olusegun v Ali Chebah fight is for the WBC title its a eliminator fight. So the winner of that fight will fight the next in line which is McCloskey for the vacant belt in the late summer time. So if Khan was to fight someone else and win that fight then fight the winner of Bradley v Alexander in the summer time. It would mean there will be 1 title left to win before he moves up a division. Its boxing politics.

Leighton, I WOULD fight khan for a tenner! Why should he get £100,000? He's not a big name, outside of Ireland. Fighting khan, (who i hate) would do nothing but raise his profile, win, lose or draw.

You might not think he is a big name but he is ranked highly in all of the World Rankings I think he is in the Rings top 10 fighters in the weight division and is unbeaten. Just because he hasnt had the backing of a Frank Warren over the years like Khan. Any World title fight would raise the profile of the fighters involved a good preformace will get more big fights. The money he was offered in there view was not good enough. He has been on Sky for the best part of 2 years now so he has a following yes the Irish fight fans would know of him but just because the English fight fans dont know of him doesnt mean he should sell himself short.
Irelands boxing is on the rise now we have some talented fighters that you wouldnt know of who could become top class fighters that SKY dont show they are topping bills over here and are doing very well and get good pay days so if they are not offered the money they think they deserve it will drag on a bit its a business at the end of the day.[/quote]


No leighton, i understand about regional fighters, as a boxing fanatic, i am aware that Ireland's boxing scene is on the up. However, this is a very famous boxer, a worldwide audience and more money than he's ever got before. I don't rate mcCloskey as highly as you, but i do think if he 'boxes' khan, he could sneak it over the 12 rounds.[/quote]

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the IBF is vacant according to that.

 

[leighton]

Glen Quagmire his team are looking for the best deal out there just because he is a famous fighter you dont sell yourself short. Put it this way his team are very good and will get him a decent deal with the likes of Barry Hearn as your promotor he will get McCloskey a deal thats worth his while. Khans having problems finding someone to fight because he is paying peanuts. Yes like any good promotor looking after Khan you get him as much money as possible but if you have another promotor looking for a better deal for there fighter you have to be willing to meet in the middle somewere to make the fight. Put it this way I dont see Sky being too happy with Khan they put him ahead of a potential Wlad Klitschko v Haye fight and Khan has yet to sort out a fight.