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Bellew seems keen and serious about fighting Fury
Think he knows Fury isn’t the biggest puncher and even though he knows he might lose the fight he will make a lot of money with no shame in defeat
Fury and Haye then retire
 
Kovalev fights Shabranskyy 3am on Sky sports. Hopefully England will still be batting at 3am. Krushers first fight back since he lost to Ward in June. Pretty sure its at MSG.
 
Kovalev looked good last night. I would love to see Kovalev v Andois Stevenson or Bivol be 2 great fights. Like the looks of Bivol but I think Kovalev will be the man now.

Kovalev & Adonis Stevenson is a fight that has been talked about for years. Sadly tv networks cudnt agree. Needs to happen and a great match up. Ward just ground krusher down with his boxing skills, think a fight with AS will just be a shoot out.
 
Kovalev & Adonis Stevenson is a fight that has been talked about for years. Sadly tv networks cudnt agree. Needs to happen and a great match up. Ward just ground krusher down with his boxing skills, think a fight with AS will just be a shoot out.

Get the impression AS doesn't want it. Seems quite happy taking relatively easy defences and smaller pay-days.
 
Maybe, it's an easy fight to sell, and money to be made on both sides. Still fancy Kovalev, but the build up would be good as well. AS would get under his skin with his antics.

There's some seriously good match ups to be made at LH, would love for it to be the next division in the WBSS. Sadly I can't see it happening given the names that would need to agree to it.
 
Miguel Cotto's final fight tonight at MSG. Probably my fav fighter of the last 15 years. Proper fighter's fighter.

Wonder how things would have worked out if Margarito didn't have loaded wraps (allegedly) and Pacquiao wasn't juiced (allegedly).
 
This Hughes and Yigit fight is great.
Mad how he is basically a one arm fighter.

which s basically his problem as it limits him so much. It was immediately obvious the right was being hardly thrown - if he doesn't do the business inside 3 - 4 rounds a decent opponent like the one tonight will always win through. Sad but true.

However Chantelle Cameron fought an excellent bout and was a deserved winner
 
Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko tomorrow night. This could well be one of the most highly skilled match ups in the recent history of the sport. Both sensational technicians.
 
Miguel Cotto's final fight tonight at MSG. Probably my fav fighter of the last 15 years. Proper fighter's fighter.

Wonder how things would have worked out if Margarito didn't have loaded wraps (allegedly) and Pacquiao wasn't juiced (allegedly).

No comments been made since this post last week, shame given that it was the farewell of a modern legend. The fight itself showed flashes of what made Cotto so good in his prime but over the twelve rounds it was obvious that he's slipped considerably and is well and truly right in his decision to retire after that fight. He would have chewed Ali up if anywhere near his peak.

To me the first half of the Margarito fight you mention was probably as great as Cotto has ever been in his career, that was a special performance until he slowed down and had his face broken up. I never like to comment on the hand wraps thing because ultimately no-one knows for sure whether the handwraps were loaded or not, no matter how passionately you argue the case. At the end of the day Pacquiao tore his face to pieces as well but his hands weren't loaded up. The PED argument is also not qualified with any specific fact either so again I'd avoid pinpointing handwraps and PEDs as reasons Cotto lost those fights.

He was a brilliant fighter in his prime and is easily my favourite from my time watching the sport. Seems his relevance has diminished slowly over the last few years which is a shame considering how much he has contributed to the game by being in many great fights and tough battles. Margarito twice, Mosley, Torres, Judah, Clottey, all those fights were tough, tough fights that would have taken a significant chunk out of the soul of an ordinary fighter so it's a testimony to Cotto's substance that he was able to perform to a high level until last weekend after having so many miles on the clock courtesy of all those fights. Never, ever in a bad fight. He should be celebrated and I'm sure he is in his home country.
 
No comments been made since this post last week, shame given that it was the farewell of a modern legend. The fight itself showed flashes of what made Cotto so good in his prime but over the twelve rounds it was obvious that he's slipped considerably and is well and truly right in his decision to retire after that fight. He would have chewed Ali up if anywhere near his peak.

To me the first half of the Margarito fight you mention was probably as great as Cotto has ever been in his career, that was a special performance until he slowed down and had his face broken up. I never like to comment on the hand wraps thing because ultimately no-one knows for sure whether the handwraps were loaded or not, no matter how passionately you argue the case. At the end of the day Pacquiao tore his face to pieces as well but his hands weren't loaded up. The PED argument is also not qualified with any specific fact either so again I'd avoid pinpointing handwraps and PEDs as reasons Cotto lost those fights.

He was a brilliant fighter in his prime and is easily my favourite from my time watching the sport. Seems his relevance has diminished slowly over the last few years which is a shame considering how much he has contributed to the game by being in many great fights and tough battles. Margarito twice, Mosley, Torres, Judah, Clottey, all those fights were tough, tough fights that would have taken a significant chunk out of the soul of an ordinary fighter so it's a testimony to Cotto's substance that he was able to perform to a high level until last weekend after having so many miles on the clock courtesy of all those fights. Never, ever in a bad fight. He should be celebrated and I'm sure he is in his home country.

Sadly he ruptured his left biceps tendon midway through last week. Normally this would sound like another defeated fighter making an excuse, but there's a photo of the injury in this week's Boxing News and you can clearly see the muscle is damaged (it's slipping up towards his shoulder - looks pretty grim). Nonetheless, still stands as one of my fav fighters of this era.

On the Pacquiao juicing debate, just ask, how many light-flys go up the divisions and heavily stop once of the best welters of a generation?
 
Sadly he ruptured his left biceps tendon midway through last week. Normally this would sound like another defeated fighter making an excuse, but there's a photo of the injury in this week's Boxing News and you can clearly see the muscle is damaged (it's slipping up towards his shoulder - looks pretty grim). Nonetheless, still stands as one of my fav fighters of this era.

On the Pacquiao juicing debate, just ask, how many light-flys go up the divisions and heavily stop once of the best welters of a generation?

Seen the injury, not ideal obviously it basically stopped him from being able to win anything from round 8 on. If we're honest though, Cotto was struggling well before that. Hit hard and hurt early doors, timing off, jab not nearly as authoritative as it used to be. He wasn't the same Cotto even from his previous fight when he bashed Kamegai from pillar to post.

On the juicing debate, you can ask questions and come up with what we think are probable or likely answers but ultimately there's no concrete facts. No official drugs tests were failed as far as I'm aware. Yes I know boxing has a rep for being crooked as fuck in many forms over the years but I'd rather not condemn fighters over things that haven't been scientifically proven against them. Not everyone's choice I know but it is mine. Fighters operating in multiple weight classes these days is much more commonplace though Pacquiao is an extreme example of that with the success he had with it.
 

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