The Boxing thread

conormcfc said:
Where did you find out about Munroe being on the Khan undercard Leighton? Not read anything about that...
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He has taken the place on the card instead of Macklin. He left Maloney and has signed a multi fight deal with Hatton Promotions. His words when signing its too big of a chance to turn down the chance to fight in front of 10,000 or more fans in the MEN or headline a small show somewhere else.

Also heard rumours that Tyson Fury may well sign a deal with Hatton Promotions some time soon his deal with Hennessey is coming to an end some time soon and with no major tv deal Fury will look at his options and more than likely teaming up with Hatton.

Also a few weeks back I heard that Froch isnt happy with Hennessey not too sure if they have sorted everything out but he feels he should of got a tv deal with Sky for his big fights and that Mick messed up. He would of made more money on Sky and would of been a PPV star by now.
 
leighton said:
conormcfc said:
Where did you find out about Munroe being on the Khan undercard Leighton? Not read anything about that...
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He has taken the place on the card instead of Macklin. He left Maloney and has signed a multi fight deal with Hatton Promotions. His words when signing its too big of a chance to turn down the chance to fight in front of 10,000 or more fans in the MEN or headline a small show somewhere else.

Also heard rumours that Tyson Fury may well sign a deal with Hatton Promotions some time soon his deal with Hennessey is coming to an end some time soon and with no major tv deal Fury will look at his options and more than likely teaming up with Hatton.

Also a few weeks back I heard that Froch isnt happy with Hennessey not too sure if they have sorted everything out but he feels he should of got a tv deal with Sky for his big fights and that Mick messed up. He would of made more money on Sky and would of been a PPV star by now.
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I thought Munroe had replaced Scott Quigg on that card?

Also Tyson Fury is fighting Hasim Rahman on the Khan card, which despite the fact Rahman is finished is a big name for Fury to have on his record.

Another point about Quigg, I read an interview with him recently in which he talked about training at the Wildcard gym in LA recently and sparring with Guillermo Rigondeaux, and by all accounts more than holding his own. Impressive reports if true. Just wonder what's in the pipeline for him if he's not fighting as planned next weekend.<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:29 pm --<br /><br /><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjDBy-JJrsA&feature=player_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjDBy-JJ ... r_embedded</a>

Had to post this, it is a youtube gem!
 
I watched the master that is Rigondeaux live in Dublin a couple of weeks ago and if Quigg was holding his own I would be surprised.

I know for a fact that Quigg has been offered a fight with Frampton but Ricky Hatton is having none of it. He wont risk Quigg against Frampton who is a real livewire. Great power and great boxing skills I would already rate him as 1 of the best young Irish fighters I have ever seen in some time. Quigg v Frampton has to be made and I feel it would be a great fight as long as it lasts and I would expect Frampton to win by a KO in the mid to late rounds.
 
leighton said:
I watched the master that is Rigondeaux live in Dublin a couple of weeks ago and if Quigg was holding his own I would be surprised.

I know for a fact that Quigg has been offered a fight with Frampton but Ricky Hatton is having none of it. He wont risk Quigg against Frampton who is a real livewire. Great power and great boxing skills I would already rate him as 1 of the best young Irish fighters I have ever seen in some time. Quigg v Frampton has to be made and I feel it would be a great fight as long as it lasts and I would expect Frampton to win by a KO in the mid to late rounds.
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Sparring isn't quite the same as we know so it could be that Rigondeaux was taking it easy a little, but it's not the first time I've heard about Quigg going to LA and doing very well in sparring over there, and the level of sparring is bound to be top class so personally I'd be inclined to believe the latest I've heard about him.

If Carl and Scott are both as good as we think they are then there's no problem in letting them develop further and maybe acquiring a couple of titles between them before pitting them together in a bigger fight down the line. No chance on earth Quigg would be scared of Frampton and I'm sure its's the same visa versa.

Just watched a youtube vid of Frampton and I like the look of him, similar to Quigg in that he looks to have the composure to pick his shots well, and his defence looks pretty compact as well. Two cracking prospects we seem to have here.
 
Billy Joe Saunders was back last Saturday. He'll be the next British PPV star if his hands aren't too brittle along the way.
 
goatfeeder100 said:
leighton said:
I watched the master that is Rigondeaux live in Dublin a couple of weeks ago and if Quigg was holding his own I would be surprised.

I know for a fact that Quigg has been offered a fight with Frampton but Ricky Hatton is having none of it. He wont risk Quigg against Frampton who is a real livewire. Great power and great boxing skills I would already rate him as 1 of the best young Irish fighters I have ever seen in some time. Quigg v Frampton has to be made and I feel it would be a great fight as long as it lasts and I would expect Frampton to win by a KO in the mid to late rounds.
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Sparring isn't quite the same as we know so it could be that Rigondeaux was taking it easy a little, but it's not the first time I've heard about Quigg going to LA and doing very well in sparring over there, and the level of sparring is bound to be top class so personally I'd be inclined to believe the latest I've heard about him.

If Carl and Scott are both as good as we think they are then there's no problem in letting them develop further and maybe acquiring a couple of titles between them before pitting them together in a bigger fight down the line. No chance on earth Quigg would be scared of Frampton and I'm sure its's the same visa versa.

Just watched a youtube vid of Frampton and I like the look of him, similar to Quigg in that he looks to have the composure to pick his shots well, and his defence looks pretty compact as well. Two cracking prospects we seem to have here.
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To be honest with you it might happen sooner than you think. I am almost certain the British title and Commonwealth titles will be made vacant with Booth fighting Kiko for the European title. I cant see Munroe fighting for either as he would have bigger fish to fry meaning that the next 2 in line at Quigg and Frampton. Carl was offered the Kiko fight but they turned it down because Kikos team were looking for a load of options on his fights. I think they wanted a rematch straight away and in Spain again. To be honest Carl has had decent sparring as well with Jason Booth he has been in with decent sparring from the start maybe not as good as Quiggs.
I am almost certain McGugian is trying to do a deal with 1 of the Sky promoters to get him on Sky Sports as he cant afford to do many shows up in Belfast. So expect to see more of Frampton on Sky in the coming months.
 
Khan v McCloskey is no longer on Sky Box Office it will instead be on normal Sky Sports which is good for fight fans but it seems Khan is no longer a big draw for Sky and they are now hoping to get the bigger numbers on Haye v Klitschko heavyweight fight. I heard this late Tuesday night didnt want to say anything until Sky changed there schedules to show it as a Sky Sports 3 event.

Also it now means that McCloskey is getting paid peanuts for the fight as he accepted a lower fee with a percentage of all of the Irish PPV sales above the Maidana fight. Bit gutted for him as it would of sold over here well but it seems either Team Khan are pulling a fast one here as there fee will not be touched and they were just not willing to give McCloskey a decent pay day.
 
leighton said:
Khan v McCloskey is no longer on Sky Box Office it will instead be on normal Sky Sports which is good for fight fans but it seems Khan is no longer a big draw for Sky and they are now hoping to get the bigger numbers on Haye v Klitschko heavyweight fight. I heard this late Tuesday night didnt want to say anything until Sky changed there schedules to show it as a Sky Sports 3 event.

Also it now means that McCloskey is getting paid peanuts for the fight as he accepted a lower fee with a percentage of all of the Irish PPV sales above the Maidana fight. Bit gutted for him as it would of sold over here well but it seems either Team Khan are pulling a fast one here as there fee will not be touched and they were just not willing to give McCloskey a decent pay day.
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I just don't think it's a big enough card nor a big enough fight to be a Box Office attraction to be honest. The last fight between two local guys (Haye-Harrison) was so bad that to be honest I don't think Sky can really run the risk of having another big event tank to the extent that that one did.

I am sure that McCloskey will put up a much better fight in his title challenge than Harrison did but no-one bar real knowledgable fans know who he is. I have only seen the guy once myself when he sparked Lauri and he looked alright then, nothing more, so as far as I can see it is a routine title defence for Khan.

I don't really know what equates to a genuine box office event nowadays to be honest but I for one wasn't willing to pay £15 quid to watch it, so I'm happier that it's on SS3.
 
Paulie Dudey McCloskey I have seen a lot of him and I rate him. No doubt about it this will be a tricky fight. McCloskey is hard to hit reflexes like a cat good head movement hits people at mad angles it will be a test. I just hope the ref doesnt call it off too early. Team McCloskey feel that Khan will try for a early KO and they are well prepared for it. Paulie is also bringing a huge amount over to Manchester for the fight if I got the cash to go I would of went myself but couldnt afford it. I heard that McCloskey has sold 5000 tickets or more for the Khan fight which is amazing considering the recession. Khan hasnt got the fanbase to sell out the MEN this fight wont be a sell out Khans fans dont want to know about this fight for some reason.

Also I beleive that Kell Brook has left Warren Promotions and has now teamed up with Matchroom and the Hearns a great signing for the Hearns I think Kell has a World title in him.
 
The ticket sales have been it hard by the Semi final no doubt about that. I heard from a good source that 13,500 tickets had been sold and they need to shift another 2k to make a profit. Personally think Khan will stop him late on just a shame I will be hopefully celebrating our victory on a coach back from London(worth it to miss the fight)

Fury and Rahman could be interesting. Is it definitely on normal sky lads?
 
Fury v Rahman is off so i wouldn't worry about that, that's part of the reason it's been taken off PPV no decent undercard fights and sky (for once) don't think it's justifyable to have this as a PPV

It will be om SS3 apparently
 
The card isnt too bad to be honest. Munroe will be the tv support more than likely with his first fight under Hatton promotions. Also Fury will get air time. Also the Irish fights on the undercard they have Andy Murray who they hope will fight John Murray for the European title some time soon. Good fighter a unknown to the UK granted but has a good style. Also Jamie Kavanagh the Irish kid who is out in the Wild Card with Khan who has a tv deal with Golden Boy so they think a lot of him will be in action. Dont think he will make the tv coverage as Sky are shit when it comes to the undercard fights.
 
Results from last night.

Paulie Malignaggi breezed it against Jose Miguel Cotto for an easy decision win, Cotto barely did anything after landing a few decent shots in the first round.

James Kirkland got fucked up in one round by some lanky Japanese chap, was funny as hell to see this thug get his ass handed to him by a total unnknown!

Just watching Robert Guerrero tattoo Michael Katsidis right now, he looks a class act, barely wasting a punch andd he throws pretty much every shot with meaty intent. Looks physically very strong and quick. Considering he's moved up a weight to take this fight I am very surprised how easily he has handled Katsidis in this one. We were talkiing about John Murray stepping up to this kind of class but Guerrero isn't even a belt holder and he looks leagues above Murray. I'd fancy Guerrero to give Marquez a hell of a fight.

Looking forward to watching the Maidana-Morales fight. I was fully expecting Maidana to lay wastee to this faded guy in 5 or 6 rounds so fair play to Morales for making an argument of it. A majority decision suggests it wasn't clear cut so I'm looking forward to seeing how Morales neutralised Maidana's power.
 
You missed Maidana and Moreales on the replay it was the first fight of the morning. I had to watch the replay as the show went past the time aloud for the tv listing on Sky.

It was a great fight. Moreales got bad eye damage in the first round and by round 3 it was nearly closed. Its a fight that would be classed as 1 of the fights of this year so far. Even with 1 eye Morales rolled back the years it went 1 way to the other. I had it as a draw to be honest. Also expect them to fight again at the end of the year they gave it the go ahead at the end of the fight. Morales heart of warrior Maidana was doing everything he was lucky not to be docked a point in the fight hitting after the bell a number of times using his head and couple of low blows but what a fight by Morales the man is back and after that preformance I can see him maybe win a World title he has the fire in the belly for it.

The Ghost was class last night. Katsidis was unlucky as it was a knock down but apart from that the Ghost had it all his way. John Murray against him and it would be lights out for Murray.


On Khan v McCloskey hearing all sorts from Khan pulling out of the fight since Sky have pulled it from PPV that team Khan may say he is injured. Also yesterday I heard rumours that Khans team are in talks with Primetime to show the fight on PPV in UK meaning that the Irish fans will not be able to watch the fight. Team Khan is a bunch of fucking cowboys no wonder they are seen as a joke in boxing. They always have problems with sorting out the fights. Trying to find out more on this but I cant get onto my source on the Dudey side.
 
Some really good fights last night. The ref in the Guerrero/Kats fight was a disgrace, wouldn't let the fight flow at all. Morales did a lot better than I expected him to do, had Maidana hut a few times.

If that's true about Khan pulling out Leighton then his team are making themselves look like even bigger jokes than they already are.
 
leighton said:
Khan v McCloskey is no longer on Sky Box Office it will instead be on normal Sky Sports which is good for fight fans but it seems Khan is no longer a big draw for Sky and they are now hoping to get the bigger numbers on Haye v Klitschko heavyweight fight. I heard this late Tuesday night didnt want to say anything until Sky changed there schedules to show it as a Sky Sports 3 event.

Also it now means that McCloskey is getting paid peanuts for the fight as he accepted a lower fee with a percentage of all of the Irish PPV sales above the Maidana fight. Bit gutted for him as it would of sold over here well but it seems either Team Khan are pulling a fast one here as there fee will not be touched and they were just not willing to give McCloskey a decent pay day.
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The reason it has been pulled from box office is because Hatton would have to forfeit one of his TV dates with Sky being a co promoter. Khan Promotions have no exisiting contract with Sky and neither do Goldenboy that is the reason why Hatton was brought in.
Hatton was awarded 5 or 6 dates with Matchroom getting the most and Warren and Maloney getting 7 a piece.
Hatton as already used up some dates and was unwilling to be penalised a date for such a small %<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:49 pm --<br /><br />After Morales fight last night, I wouldnt be at all suprised if a Hatton-Morales fight was made for next year.

Goldenboy offered this to Hatton last year, but it was only an undercard fight and at the time Hatton thought it too big a step down for him to not be considered main event.

A couple of tune up fights for Hatton at the MEN, Morales keeps himself out of trouble with a couple of fights himself, then they meet in Vegas June 2012.

A load would travel over to watch it for one final hurrah in Vegas with Hatton.
 
conormcfc said:
Some really good fights last night. The ref in the Guerrero/Kats fight was a disgrace, wouldn't let the fight flow at all. Morales did a lot better than I expected him to do, had Maidana hut a few times.

If that's true about Khan pulling out Leighton then his team are making themselves look like even bigger jokes than they already are.
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I have been trying to get some more info. What I have been told is that Tyson Fury is now off the card. The fight is still going on as far as I know it. It seems that team Khan are going to Primetime in the hope that Sky will offer them a bit more from not having it on Sky Box Office. Sky have pulled all of the Khan stuff off there website until they know for certain what is going on. Khans team is coming out of this a bad way and it wouldnt surprise me in the long term if Sky tell Khan to fuck off he and his team have been a joke.
Hattons have put on the bulk of the undercard with the fights and Sky have left the slot open for the fight how long they leave it opened for is another question. I know a lot of fans from over here that is going over for the fight and they are not too sure whats going on with the recent bits and pieces around team Khan.
 
Just watched the Morales fight now and absolute credit to him. He took some big shots from Maidana and came back with plenty of classy, clean shots himself. I wouldn't have argued had the judges scored it to him. I wasn't impressed with Maidana, he looked leaden legged, was breathing heavily even early on and his attacks were crude at best. He was at least heavy handed enough though to get Morales' attention now and again with some big punches and that kept Maidana competitive in the fight, but I don't think he won personally. Definitely a better fight than I anticipated and a rematch wouldn't be a bad shout.

Khan-McCloskey is not on Sky at all now and it sounds like Primetime are favourites to take the fight. Ridiculous circumstances, so many changes to the bill and if Khan is to lose £1m from the loss of SBO sales, you do have to wonder just how little McCloskey is going to pocket from this fight.
 
Team Khan have burnt there bridges with Sky. I cant see any way back for Khan with Sky he has been taking the piss. All the build up Sky have done with Khan over the recent months and they even gave him priority over a Haye V Klitschko fight for him to fuck it up like he has is mind blowing. They wont make the sales on Primetime as none of the casual fight fans will want anything of it. Who is going to pay £15 or whatever for the ppv of Khan with the undercard that is on it.

Also from McCloskeys side they seem to think that it will be aired on Premier Sports rather than Primetime. Premier have been showing more live boxing in the last 6 months and for the fans would be a better option as it will work out half the price than Primetime and you get there station for a month with another live World title fight on the following weekend.
 
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