The English Pirlo. That man from Hastings

I like Barry, he's so calm and on the ball and his passing is very crisp. He breaks up the opposition's play well too. He is a vital member of the team.

What frustrates me is his alarming lack of pace. He is one of the slowest footballers I have seen! Maybe last season with the World Cup he was half-fit for took a toll on him, like it did with Torres. I didn't really notice him on Monday lol, can anyone confirm if he looked any faster or more agile?
 
leighton said:
This has to be some sort of piss take. To compare Barry and Pirlo is just madness. Barry is not good enough and wont be part of our team long term. We need better than Barry and Milner to be honest. Barry is shit hasnt done it since he has come to the club. IF Nasri signs Barry will be dropped to the Vieira role with Yaya taking his place beside De Jong.
I never rated him even when he was with Villa he has done nothing to change my mind during his time here. His forward passing is iffy to fuck. I could pass the ball side ways all the time. He has no long term future at the club and I think Mancini would be looking at getting someone into the midfield to replace both Barry and Milner in the longterm. Barry will play a bit part at the club this season if we get our targets and will more than likely be used in league cup games this season.

talking your normal shit as usual if i remember rightly you said he wouldn't get anywhere near the first team this season?
 
may be of interest to some....

<a class="postlink" href="http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18042011/58/premier-league-proof-barry-really-slow.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18042011/ ... -slow.html</a>

Im summary, the article presents data that shows Barry to be city's slowest play, but also our player who covers the most distance during a game. His distance covered - nearly 8 miles - is bettered by only 2 other players in the league (meireles and sir joey of barton).

So while the Barry-haters are quick to jump on his lack of pace, claiming that this makes him "not an athlete," his impressive endurance is often overlooked.
 
We have the same 'debate' with Michael Carrick amongst United supporters.
He too is a little one-paced ( may be a little generous there ) but I feel that he is vital to setting the rhythm of our football and when he and Barry are on their game they contribute an enormous amount to the team. Collecting loose ball and giving them simple to more gifted members of the side.
You notice these 2 lads more when they aren't there and that's not a critism.
 
leewill31 said:
leighton said:
This has to be some sort of piss take. To compare Barry and Pirlo is just madness. Barry is not good enough and wont be part of our team long term. We need better than Barry and Milner to be honest. Barry is shit hasnt done it since he has come to the club. IF Nasri signs Barry will be dropped to the Vieira role with Yaya taking his place beside De Jong.
I never rated him even when he was with Villa he has done nothing to change my mind during his time here. His forward passing is iffy to fuck. I could pass the ball side ways all the time. He has no long term future at the club and I think Mancini would be looking at getting someone into the midfield to replace both Barry and Milner in the longterm. Barry will play a bit part at the club this season if we get our targets and will more than likely be used in league cup games this season.

talking your normal shit as usual if i remember rightly you said he wouldn't get anywhere near the first team this season?

Because my opinion is different to yours I am talking a load of shit.? We are not finished spending money this season if we get Nasri then I cant see Barry being in the team ahead of De Jong or Yaya.
 
leighton said:
leewill31 said:
leighton said:
This has to be some sort of piss take. To compare Barry and Pirlo is just madness. Barry is not good enough and wont be part of our team long term. We need better than Barry and Milner to be honest. Barry is shit hasnt done it since he has come to the club. IF Nasri signs Barry will be dropped to the Vieira role with Yaya taking his place beside De Jong.
I never rated him even when he was with Villa he has done nothing to change my mind during his time here. His forward passing is iffy to fuck. I could pass the ball side ways all the time. He has no long term future at the club and I think Mancini would be looking at getting someone into the midfield to replace both Barry and Milner in the longterm. Barry will play a bit part at the club this season if we get our targets and will more than likely be used in league cup games this season.

talking your normal shit as usual if i remember rightly you said he wouldn't get anywhere near the first team this season?

Because my opinion is different to yours I am talking a load of shit.? We are not finished spending money this season if we get Nasri then I cant see Barry being in the team ahead of De Jong or Yaya.

I am almost 100% Mancini will play him above De Jong
 
leighton said:
The reason I dont rate him is because he is so poor. He will have 1 good game and then be shit for the next 5 games. There is games were you look at him and you expect him to boss the game and he gets over ran and out played. Slow as fuck and if we want to go to very top we need better than Barry. Yes he looked good against Swansea but when the big games come he is one of those players I would rather not see in our team. I will eat my hat if he starts ahead of either De Jong or Yaya if we sign Nasri.
Also if we were to get rid of him I cant see him getting into the team of other top 4 teams or Liverpool and Spurs. Just one of those players that will split most fans views in my opinion the sooner we get rid of him the better.

Oh dear...

What do you think his fellow team mates would say about him?
 
leighton said:
leewill31 said:
leighton said:
This has to be some sort of piss take. To compare Barry and Pirlo is just madness. Barry is not good enough and wont be part of our team long term. We need better than Barry and Milner to be honest. Barry is shit hasnt done it since he has come to the club. IF Nasri signs Barry will be dropped to the Vieira role with Yaya taking his place beside De Jong.
I never rated him even when he was with Villa he has done nothing to change my mind during his time here. His forward passing is iffy to fuck. I could pass the ball side ways all the time. He has no long term future at the club and I think Mancini would be looking at getting someone into the midfield to replace both Barry and Milner in the longterm. Barry will play a bit part at the club this season if we get our targets and will more than likely be used in league cup games this season.

talking your normal shit as usual if i remember rightly you said he wouldn't get anywhere near the first team this season?

Because my opinion is different to yours I am talking a load of shit.? We are not finished spending money this season if we get Nasri then I cant see Barry being in the team ahead of De Jong or Yaya.


you bang the same drum over and over yet Barry has proven the likes of you wrong every time yet you still persist with the shit you write its like you don't actually see Barry on the pitch throughout the 90 minutes!
 
Gaz reminds me of Wiekens in a sense that his football brain is brilliant, its only his pace that let's him down. Both him and Nige are two of the first names on the teamsheet, they're both equally vital. Sabster just doesn't like Nige, and that Dick Leighton has a vendetta against certain players, its not hard to fathom which type they are....
 
For me its about the team... every player has his role and we are now very fortunate to have both de Jong and Barry complementing each other... no one is bigger or better than the other... the thing is they complement each other and click very well together... when one is missing on the pitch the other cant be as effective as if both plays... Barry is one heck of a footballer in the sense that he does the little but yet very effective stuff noone else actually can do in the same way!
 
WNRH said:
You know when de jong makes a crunching last minute tackle and the crowd get up and shout "get in de jong" "de jong, de jong, de jong de jong de jong" and then start singing "oh when de jong, goes sliding in". Well Mr slow coach has already done the same thing, expect he hasn't gone sliding in at 100mph. He has quietly mopped up which goes unnoticed and unappreciated to the paying public's eye.

He is loved by Mancini and Capello and Benitez wanted to get rid of Alonso to free up funds to buy him. There is reason's for this, just watch the game more closely.
Brilliant post.

I don't even look in those threads anymore, but I guarantee that those 'what is our strongest XI if Nasri signs?' threads are full of teams without Gaz. In fact, I'll be surprised if there's any more than even 1 or 2 teams that include him.

But Bobby will start him at Bolton and that's all that matters.
 
Read all ten pages of this. Good read and some very intelligent posts.

I tend to agree that Barry and De Jong compliment each other well, but I think that only works in a mid-field three. In a 4-4-2 I think it takes Barry and Milner, or Barry and Yaya, Or Dejong and Yaya and so on. Barry's first season here we tried them two on their own, and it didn't look nearly as effective as barry-dejong-yaya, in which Barry and Yaya have freedom to go forward.

I will be interested to see where Nasri fits in, and I think Mancini is still trying to figure out where Milner figures in. In the end, I think it will be different line ups and formations for different games and competitions, away legs, etc.
 
Seosa said:
Gaz reminds me of Wiekens in a sense that his football brain is brilliant, its only his pace that let's him down. Both him and Nige are two of the first names on the teamsheet, they're both equally vital. Sabster just doesn't like Nige, and that Dick Leighton has a vendetta against certain players, its not hard to fathom which type they are....

I dont have any vendetta against any players at the club. I have criticised many players who hasnt it doesnt mean I have a vendetta on anyone. I criticised Hart last season when he went into a bad patch mainly because we had another top class keeper on the bench at the time. I have praised many players as well from Richards and Lescott at the back end of last season. I done the same with Yaya and Barry last season the only difference Yaya can be World Class as Barry will never be anywhere near that level in my view. It seems to me that you are not able to have a different view on players on this board anymore. If we all had the same view this place would be shit.
 
ade_105_r said:
may be of interest to some....

<a class="postlink" href="http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18042011/58/premier-league-proof-barry-really-slow.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18042011/ ... -slow.html</a>

Im summary, the article presents data that shows Barry to be city's slowest play, but also our player who covers the most distance during a game. His distance covered - nearly 8 miles - is bettered by only 2 other players in the league (meireles and sir joey of barton).

So while the Barry-haters are quick to jump on his lack of pace, claiming that this makes him "not an athlete," his impressive endurance is often overlooked.

the same article states that Barry's top speed exceeds Essien's... i don't see the mob of chavs outside of SB demanding a better option than him...
 
leighton said:
Seosa said:
Gaz reminds me of Wiekens in a sense that his football brain is brilliant, its only his pace that let's him down. Both him and Nige are two of the first names on the teamsheet, they're both equally vital. Sabster just doesn't like Nige, and that Dick Leighton has a vendetta against certain players, its not hard to fathom which type they are....

I dont have any vendetta against any players at the club. I have criticised many players who hasnt it doesnt mean I have a vendetta on anyone. I criticised Hart last season when he went into a bad patch mainly because we had another top class keeper on the bench at the time. I have praised many players as well from Richards and Lescott at the back end of last season. I done the same with Yaya and Barry last season the only difference Yaya can be World Class as Barry will never be anywhere near that level in my view. It seems to me that you are not able to have a different view on players on this board anymore. If we all had the same view this place would be shit.

your view has been the same since he came to the club on form or not even in games he has been man of the match you have found criticism so yes i would class it as a vendetta.
 
leewill31 said:
leighton said:
Seosa said:
Gaz reminds me of Wiekens in a sense that his football brain is brilliant, its only his pace that let's him down. Both him and Nige are two of the first names on the teamsheet, they're both equally vital. Sabster just doesn't like Nige, and that Dick Leighton has a vendetta against certain players, its not hard to fathom which type they are....

I dont have any vendetta against any players at the club. I have criticised many players who hasnt it doesnt mean I have a vendetta on anyone. I criticised Hart last season when he went into a bad patch mainly because we had another top class keeper on the bench at the time. I have praised many players as well from Richards and Lescott at the back end of last season. I done the same with Yaya and Barry last season the only difference Yaya can be World Class as Barry will never be anywhere near that level in my view. It seems to me that you are not able to have a different view on players on this board anymore. If we all had the same view this place would be shit.

your view has been the same since he came to the club on form or not even in games he has been man of the match you have found criticism so yes i would class it as a vendetta.

Just because I dont rate Barry doesnt mean I have a vendetta against him. I still support the player and would never boo him or wish anything bad on him it just that in my view there is better players than Barry.
 
So, if I'm to believe this thread Barry's qualities are:

Passing sideways
Holding his position
Hitting a diagonal 30 yard ball accurately approximately once every 38 games
Giving away silly free kicks

Yep, I can see why Mancini, Capello, and Benitez rate him.
 
Calm , cool and collected. Gareth Barry may do his job very quietly , but he does it very efficiently and effectively . On Monday night , I thought he was magnificent , the best of the three central midfield players out there , I was surprised not to see a thread earlier. He may make 2 yard passes and get beat by a tortoise in a foot race , but he is a tremendous player . He always somehow gets singled out if we lose or draw , but he never ever really does anything wrong. He is a very good player and one we should be pleased to have .
 

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