The Labour Government

I find that VERY dubious indeed. Not to mention the fact that - if my understanding is correct - a big part of the 22bn, was public sector and NHS pay rises - which the Tory government were not going to pay. So it's only a black hole because Labour have decided to pay it.
The problem with the tory approach is they just store up problems for as long as they can get away with. So you are right the tories wouldn't agree to NHS pay rises but at the same time they ran it into the ground. Same with the courts and prison system. University's and local authorities about to go bust. Its all on its arse.

I'm of the view Kier shouldn't wait. Just get the tax rises done now. Sooner the better.
 
My partners grandma wealth is roughly 650 k , but grandparents worked hard and progress as teachers , she is 95 now he was 98 when he passed last year , there was so careful with money both ended up in care , while people next to them got it free

My dad worked 2 jobs 7 days a week , parents paid mortage off quicker then invested so have done ok , but even now in there 70’s buy cheap food , house is like something from the 80’s

Both of them want to pass money onto children and grand children , why should labour come and try and change that
 
Are you a Sir Keir/Reeves bot?

“very tough decisions” is all so last 14 years it really is. You would think they all sing from the same songbook.

You don’t think Labour have inherited a complete mess ?
Have you seen the state of our public services ?
The strikes in public sectors ?
The shit that’s being allowed to pollute our rivers and seas?
Prisons completely full.

Yet, after a month you’re expecting them to turn everything around without making any cuts or higher taxes ?
 
You don’t think Labour have inherited a complete mess ?
Have you seen the state of our public services ?
The strikes in public sectors ?
The shit that’s being allowed to pollute our rivers and seas?
Prisons completely full.

Yet, after a month you’re expecting them to turn everything around without making any cuts or higher taxes ?

Sounds like most of the 53 years of my life so far to be perfectly honest with you?

Cuts and higher taxes have never fixed it before so why now?

What utopia can you remember?
 
Are you a Sir Keir/Reeves bot?

“very tough decisions” is all so last 14 years it really is. You would think they all sing from the same songbook.
Because it’s the fucking truth.
What were you expecting?
 
My partners grandma wealth is roughly 650 k , but grandparents worked hard and progress as teachers , she is 95 now he was 98 when he passed last year , there was so careful with money both ended up in care , while people next to them got it free

My dad worked 2 jobs 7 days a week , parents paid mortage off quicker then invested so have done ok , but even now in there 70’s buy cheap food , house is like something from the 80’s

Both of them want to pass money onto children and grand children , why should labour come and try and change that
If they have combined wealth of 650k and most of it in their house then they would pay no inheritance tax. Let's wait and see what Labour do but I would guess the level it kicks in might stay the same and the change would be cutting some loopholes and increasing the rate for those that have to pay.

My parents assets are above the threshold already so I'm pretty sure I will lose out. I blame the tories.
 
Sounds like most of the 53 years of my life so far to be perfectly honest with you?

Cuts and higher taxes have never fixed it before so why now?

What utopia can you remember?

So what then ?

Don’t make any cuts , don’t raise taxes. Let the black hole billions keep mounting?
 

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