Mainly due to corrupt politicians stealing public resources and shifting the profits out of the country, almost always with the help of our banking system and our tax havens, and often at the behest of our corporations. Fix that, and they wouldn't need charity in the first place. People talk about reparations for colonialism, but how about fixing the robbery that's still happening seemingly with our full blessing?Unfortunately there are starving people all over the world ( mainly due to badly run countries who take money in charity and waste it) are we to fund the rest of world? And/or bring them all over here?
Why? Why should someone working and paying tax have to pay twice just because they're an immigrant?
It's a cash grab plain and simple. If it wasn't, immigrants could opt out of it and get private health insurance instead. It also wouldn't have increased by around 500% in a few years if it was actually based on cost. In France, immigrants are entitled to healthcare after 3 months of paying taxes, and have to get private health insurance to cover those the three months they're not entitled. The UK could easily do that. In most countries, they operate an insurance system, so the immigrant has to pay in exactly the same as everyone else and gets the same benefits as everyone else.Its not twice, its £1k a year or there abouts for temporary residents. Plenty of potential for additional costs, eg costs with getting your medical history from your home country, interpretation of them (possibility you’ll need an interpreter at appointments), you’ve not paid in to the system up until the point you arrive. Other / all countries have this type of system - the UK isn’t unique.
Unfortunately there are starving people all over the world ( mainly due to badly run countries who take money in charity and waste it) are we to fund the rest of world? And/or bring them all over here?
Why? Why should someone working and paying tax have to pay twice just because they're an immigrant?
Not when you’re (incorrectly) referencing the cost of hospitals, which the last Labour government wasted many, many billions of pounds on.
It’s a specific and relevant comment.
Plus the fact that I’ll happily admit that the Rwanda scheme was a terrible waste of money.
But , of course, the Conservatives (who introduced PFI) and reintroduced it in 2012 (after it had been discontinued by Labour ) won't have wasted a penny on it will they?
Did you sleep through the Blair/Brown years then?
Reeves wouldn’t go full PFI would she?
How awkward would that be for you to defend?
At least we did actually get new Blair / Brown hospitals unlike those 40 new Liar Johnson hospitals.No ... I didn't 'sleep' through the Blair / Brown years..... PFI & PFI2 was / is an absolute disaster in the form used. It is the constant blaming of the Labour party for its introduction and use that gets on my wick ,
Unfortunately Gas and Electricity were not in their manifesto so wont be this parliament according to the new Transport secretary and they already have GB Energy on the cards.In other news Labour are starting to fulfil their promise of nationalising the rail services which I think the vast majority support.
Gas and Electricity next please.
Isn’t it all to do with contracts? Rail have short term contracts, about 5 years lease, whereas utilities have far longer agreements and are very difficult to bring back into public control. With water, I think the only way to get them back is if the private companies basically hand them back.Unfortunately Gas and Electricity were not in their manifesto so wont be this parliament according to the new Transport secretary and they already have GB Energy on the cards.
I would guess, looking at the state of it, Water would be next if anything.
And you edited this..???Cool. Now I know where we can dump all our illegal aliens. America thanks you for your service.
I just checked - we can offer you 15 million illegals arriving daily on large boats over four years. 20 million? We could do 20 if that suits.
You do appear to get quite animated by this, so I've helpfully provided some figures for you to place the issue into context.But , of course, the Conservatives (who introduced PFI) and reintroduced it in 2012 (after it had been discontinued by Labour ) won't have wasted a penny on it will they?
Yes the franchise only runs for a set period on a particular route so it does make it easier. Not sure what happens however with the utilities if the regulator decides they are failing and they dont act on the improvement notices. I would assume the government remains the operator of last resort.Isn’t it all to do with contracts? Rail have short term contracts, about 5 years lease, whereas utilities have far longer agreements and are very difficult to bring back into public control. With water, I think the only way to get them back is if the private companies basically hand them back.
I seen something about waters and it basically said that the companies would have to poison people for an extended period of time for the government to step in. Even then, the companies would retain overall control until the end of the contract. A rolling 25 years seems to ring a bell?Yes the franchise only runs for a set period on a particular route so it does make it easier. Not sure what happens however with the utilities if the regulator decides they are failing and they dont act on the improvement notices. I would assume the government remains the operator of last resort.
I seen something about waters and it basically said that the companies would have to poison people for an extended period of time for the government to step in. Even then, the companies would retain overall control until the end of the contract. A rolling 25 years seems to ring a bell?