The Labour Government

Churchlawtonblue said:
What are peoples opinion on Mandelson being the US ambassador ? That's potentially a very tough job with Trump coming in. No doubt Mandelson is a skilled political operator, but I have never warmed to him, after he had to resign twice over shady dealings.
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Meaning : Someone who continuously stalks the corridors of power despite a career of scandal and murky relationships.

Only the "unskilled" get held to account in this game ;-)
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
So 30% more beds as they have been deported having had their claims refused. There was an article on here the other day showing hotels are shutting for asylum seekers as they are no longer needed.
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The problem isnt the boats (although they don’t help) the problem is the authorised immigration 700k last year of which only a third was actually work visas! Lots are educational or social workers, the educational ones are allowed bring dependants over an that’s the problem, I’m not been funny but if you come to go to university then it should be you only and not X amount of family. The universities rely on lots of foreign students but they shouldn’t be bringing hangers on with them. Once they finish their education then unless they get a job cheerio.
 
Blue Maverick said:
The problem isnt the boats (although they don’t help) the problem is the authorised immigration 700k last year of which only a third was actually work visas! Lots are educational or social workers, the educational ones are allowed bring dependants over an that’s the problem, I’m not been funny but if you come to go to university then it should be you only and not X amount of family. The universities rely on lots of foreign students but they shouldn’t be bringing hangers on with them. Once they finish their education then unless they get a job cheerio.
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They’ve changed it so students can’t bring their families. That’ll mean less will come over and who knows what that will do to tertiary education in the long term.

Once they’ve completed their degree, they have to leave unless they apply for a working visa.


I agree that the boats aren’t really a big issue, but they’ve been made to be the main issue by the press and populist politicians.
 
Blue Maverick said:
The problem isnt the boats (although they don’t help) the problem is the authorised immigration 700k last year of which only a third was actually work visas! Lots are educational or social workers, the educational ones are allowed bring dependants over an that’s the problem, I’m not been funny but if you come to go to university then it should be you only and not X amount of family. The universities rely on lots of foreign students but they shouldn’t be bringing hangers on with them. Once they finish their education then unless they get a job cheerio.
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This was revoked in January of this year. It's good to see you're well on top of the subject as you'd probably only get a D- if you were at Uni studying immigration!!
 



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Kompany Car said:
It goes much further back, the 2008 crash was just the coup de grâce. Our problems can be traced back as far as the 70s under Wilson and Callaghan where we failed to modernise our means of production and kowtowed to the union demands. Thatcher then systematically dismantled our manufacturing industry in favour of the financial serviced sector which makes your economy very prone to financial shocks along with the criminal sell off of our utilities.
Move along to Blair with his laissez-faire approach to spending, failing to put money away in case of further financial shocks and you end up at 2008...

At each stage there was an opportunity to do something which would have made it better in the long run for the residents of the UK but they failed.
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The problem is, how I see it at least, that 2008 crash was the point of no return to anything even close how things were. People had been living for a very long time on the very edge of falling financial insecurity. It was only cushioned by cheap credits, low inflation and interest rates, cheap products from China and more or less stable energy markets. All of those things are gone now. Before that we always had highs and up, boosts and busts, but there are no more ups and boosts, we are just happy to be back to negative zero. Tories realised after Truss what's the game, some Tories at least, and that's the reason why they gave up. And then this moron turned up winning with his "the fastest growing economy in G7" and "rise in productivity" bullshit without even knowing what it means. I met the guy 10+ years ago and he seemed ok, but as a politician and the ideas he espouses right now, he is acting as a complete idiot.
 
Lammy and Mandelson responsible for our dealings with the USA after their comments about him

Genius Starmer.. Fucking genius

It has to be.. otherwise it’s the decision of an imbecile
 
Bluemanc100 said:
Lammy and Mandelson responsible for our dealings with the USA after their comments about him

Genius Starmer.. Fucking genius

It has to be.. otherwise it’s the decision of an imbecile
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If you had to take out all of those who havent called him a twat there wouldnt be many there , even his vice president called him a nazi and various other things !

edit , trumps campaign manager has just called mandelson a moron!
 
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I see Starmer has promised £1.6bn to local authorities to mend pot holes.

And yes Sunak did the same and his promise was £8.3 bn but that was over 11 years meaning £754m each year - none of it was actually provided before the suicidal GE was called and in any event they were never going to be in power for 11 years - another example of them saying shite with no money set aside to back it up
 
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