The Labour Government

8 dead after trying to illegally cross the channel again sadly.

Does Starmer and Labour have blood on their hands or is it different for them?
 
Vic said:
I'm struggling to understand your vituperation.

Well, not really, the Tories here have sat quietly through 14 years of degradation of public services, and corruption, and are now happily giving a bit back - some might even be justified.

If you think VicTory is the best witticism since someone came up with "The Bloviator" then knock yourself out with it.
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Okay i will concede you might just be dim then.
 
hilts said:
These sentences were political imho, it was Naive to think they weren't. Now that doesn't mean I don't agree with any of them because life is too short for me to go through everyone.

Like the wfa there was always going to be consequences. So far that has been a sexual assault on a woman and soon it will be deaths of pensioners.

Starmer seems content with this, if you and VicTory wish to defend it is up to you . I have a,feeling you.two aren't really happy with it but maybe I have it wrong
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He sexually assaulted a prison officer, and was then promptly arrested and immediately recalled to prison.

The consequences of not releasing people as part of that scheme would be that offenders couldn't be jailed because there was no where to put them.

Or Labour could cram them all in and have no safe limits and prison officers would be at greater risk of serious violence due to the unsafe staff to prisoner ratios.

But sure take it in a silo rather than consider the trade-offs.

hilts said:
Okay i will concede you might just be dim then.
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Have you considered driving the prison bus?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Mr Kobayashi finds person who agrees with him. Well shock horror.

You are not seriously trying to defend this horseshit are you. I mean seriously, you are OK with people on £10k per year having £300 taken off them. Seriously???
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you need to start putting the nobs on ignore mate.......padded cell jobs.

Starmer and his cronies are cunts end of. I said the same for tories though.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Mr Kobayashi finds person who agrees with him. Well shock horror.

You are not seriously trying to defend this horseshit are you. I mean seriously, you are OK with people on £10k per year having £300 taken off them. Seriously???
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It was in my feed, didn't go looking for it.

Were you okay with someone on less than that having their universal credit pushed back by £100 a month?

Mr dad became a state pensioner this year. He'll never get the WFA, I'm still happy with the policy. Pensioners in poverty can be targeted rather than giving out freebies to all old people above a certain age point. Even giving it to pensioners living in warm countries FFS!
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Why is a rich labour prime minister having a wealthy donor take his wife shopping, buy her clothes, and buy him glasses?!?


www.bbc.co.uk

Keir Starmer may have broken rules over donor's gifts to wife

The prime minister reportedly failed to declare clothes bought for his wife by a major Labour donor.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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No no no noooooo! I've just heard that Lammy has said that it's all been declared on the register. So that's alright then! Oh no it isn't! It begs the question of WHY does a highly paid couple need someone to come along and buy 'em clothes. Thought the taxpayer was doing that!
 
Blue Maverick said:
Exactly and it was right
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I think the big thing with the Poll Tax is that it didn't take into account the value of the property (if memory serves me right). Initially, wasn't it proposed that one person living in a property that would be now in the highest band pay the same as one person in the lowest?
So a millionaire could end up paying the same as someone on a very low wage?
 
mackenzie said:
I think the big thing with the Poll Tax is that it didn't take into account the value of the property (if memory serves me right). Initially, wasn't it proposed that one person living in a property that would be now in the highest band pay the same as one person in the lowest?
So a millionaire could end up paying the same as someone on a very low wage?
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Not sure pal, I just think a universal payment for every working adult should be paid for local services, when I was single I’d put my bin out every few weeks instead of every week like most families do, therefore I’m using it less should I pay less? I just believe if you’re over 18 and earning you pay a “council” tax, it’s only fair.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Not sure pal, I just think a universal payment for every working adult should be paid for local services, when I was single I’d put my bin out every few weeks instead of every week like most families do, therefore I’m using it less should I pay less? I just believe if you’re over 18 and earning you pay a “council” tax, it’s only fair.
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I'd have to Google it, but I'm sure that's what the big "kick off" was about. I think that's why they introduced the bands and the discount.
I do understand the argument you are stating but I think the system we have at the moment is probably the most fair.
And for what it's worth..... live on my own in a studio flat, and use one bin liner a week. ;-)
 
mancityvstoke said:
I get a state pension pal.........so fuck off with your bollocks and turbo posting shyte to wind older people up.

shameful
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I wasn't talking about the state pension. I was talking about WFA.

Thanks for confirming I was correct.

What's shameful is the attitude of an increasing amount of older people who have an entitlement beyond the means of the support that can be offered by the working age population. The safety net is only able to exist based on a social contract not entitlement. If older people abuse the social contract, as many have.

when NIMBYs, Tory voters, people deliberately avoiding paying their own care costs, older people can't reasonably expect to get the same benefits or entitlements (which is paid for by the working age population).
 
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Mr Kobayashi said:
I wasn't talking about the state pension. I was talking about WFA.

Thanks for confirming I was correct.

What's shameful is the attitude of an increasing amount of older people who have an entitlement beyond the means of the support that can be offered by the working age population. The safety net is only able to exist based on a social contract not entitlement.
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more of your turbo shyte.........do one.

You sound like a fucking tory
 
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