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I’m not the one struggling to grasp the point.

In fact the whole discussion around the triple lock compensating for the loss of the WFA is disingenuous anyway, because pensioners would have received both the WFA and the uplift from the triple lock (the uplift being determined by the highest value of three figures, just to be clear).
"All pensioners will be getting £45 a week more state pension than 3 years ago (triple lock meant a rise to match inflation one year then to match the consequent average earnings the following year)"

Don't start spouting "disingenuous" about what's obviously true because you disingenuously introduced the word "compensating" into a "discussion".
 
"All pensioners will be getting £45 a week more state pension than 3 years ago (triple lock meant a rise to match inflation one year then to match the consequent average earnings the following year)"

Don't start spouting "disingenuous" about what's obviously true because you disingenuously introduced the word "compensating" into a "discussion".
You think this is a discussion?

There’s no discussion at the moment, just an angry tirade like parties are football clubs.

Very strange.
 
"All pensioners will be getting £45 a week more state pension than 3 years ago (triple lock meant a rise to match inflation one year then to match the consequent average earnings the following year)"

Don't start spouting "disingenuous" about what's obviously true because you disingenuously introduced the word "compensating" into a "discussion".
Why did you reference the triple lock, if not to offer up a mitigating factor for the loss of the WFA?

Perhaps you should read your post again, or maybe you can reach out to the comrades on one of your WhatsApp groups. I’m sure there’s plenty on there about pensioners.
 
"All pensioners will be getting £45 a week more state pension than 3 years ago (triple lock meant a rise to match inflation one year then to match the consequent average earnings the following year)"

Don't start spouting "disingenuous" about what's obviously true because you disingenuously introduced the word "compensating" into a "discussion".
£45 a week more what fucking planet are you on
 
My mate, who is a well paid civil servant but is about 69, takes his state pension and civil service pension and continues to work for the Government, in a very well paid job.
He is a fully paid up Labour Party member and a rag, to rub the salt in...
He often jokes that the WFA was his Christmas wine money,
When I came to get mine Starmer cancelled it... I needed it but hey oh...
My mate acknowledges that he lost the WFA, in the tax he still has to pay but enjoyed taking the piss out of me.
I can only get my own back by telling him I intend to vote for Reform, as that really winds him up.
 
Why Unfortunately? The overseas aid budget is corruption at the top level, it's just money laundering and paying depots, why should the British taxpayer, pay to another country, when our own needs all the help it can get, especially after the last 14 years of the Tories and now with this muppet in charge.
I was finishing my last stint in Central Africa in 2014, about the same time the West African Ebola outbreak kicked off. Because my NGO shared digs in Congo-Brazzaville with MSF staff, we’d get the occasional doctor rotated back from Guinea to Brazzaville before flying back to Paris. If you’d seen them, you’d understand what foreign aid actually buys. We came this close to a global outbreak of Ebola in 2014 and the three things that prevented it were the courage of local health professionals, healthcare charities and foreign aid. You think the US and EU spent 100’s of millions of dollars because they gave a shit about mortality rates in Conakry or Monrovia? They spent the money there because it was a lot cheaper than spending it trying to fight it at home. That’s what foreign aid is. Does it grate that 15p in the £ ends up paying for mercs and Rolexes? Sure, but I’ll take that over bleeding out through my eyes and arsehole in a hospital corridor full of people bleeding out through their eyes and arseholes.
 
I was finishing my last stint in Central Africa in 2014, about the same time the West African Ebola outbreak kicked off. Because my NGO shared digs in Congo-Brazzaville with MSF staff, we’d get the occasional doctor rotated back from Guinea to Brazzaville before flying back to Paris. If you’d seen them, you’d understand what foreign aid actually buys. We came this close to a global outbreak of Ebola in 2014 and the three things that prevented it were the courage of local health professionals, healthcare charities and foreign aid. You think the US and EU spent 100’s of millions of dollars because they gave a shit about mortality rates in Conakry or Monrovia? They spent the money there because it was a lot cheaper than spending it trying to fight it at home. That’s what foreign aid is. Does it grate that 15p in the £ ends up paying for mercs and Rolexes? Sure, but I’ll take that over bleeding out through my eyes and arsehole in a hospital corridor full of people bleeding out through their eyes and arseholes.
What Musk characterised as USAID paying for condoms for Palestinian fighters was actually to contain an outbreak of Aids in Gaza province Mozambique.
 
Many of the older generation are not capable or computer savvy enough and/or just cannot be arsed to engage with the government for making a claim which would mean working through many pages of not easy to complete forms.

All they needed to do was to run a programme to ID the people in the higher tax bracket and stop the payments. In this day and age I would venture that, that was something that could be developed by a "wet behind the ears" intern.
What a load of garbage. I'm 67 years old, perfectly capable, and have more than enough 'savvy' to understand what is going on.

It was our generation that developed the home computer and video games back in the 70's and 80's, and embraced the internet when it first became available.
 
What a load of garbage. I'm 67 years old, perfectly capable, and have more than enough 'savvy' to understand what is going on.

It was our generation that developed the home computer and video games back in the 70's and 80's, and embraced the internet when it first became available.
Christ, what a shameful, selfish "I'm alright Jack" attitude to have.

Yu may well be okay and I'm happy for you but let me tell you there are many many people out there who are not so fortunate. Well fuck 'em, If they can't look after themselves them they're just a drain on society and we probably don't need 'em eh?
 
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I’m not the one struggling to grasp the point.

In fact the whole discussion around the triple lock compensating for the loss of the WFA is disingenuous anyway, because pensioners would have received both the WFA and the uplift from the triple lock (the uplift being determined by the highest value of three figures, just to be clear).
I think Vics caring point was millions haven't died though.

That appears to be his line in the sand:-)
 
My mate, who is a well paid civil servant but is about 69, takes his state pension and civil service pension and continues to work for the Government, in a very well paid job.
He is a fully paid up Labour Party member and a rag, to rub the salt in...
He often jokes that the WFA was his Christmas wine money,
When I came to get mine Starmer cancelled it... I needed it but hey oh...
My mate acknowledges that he lost the WFA, in the tax he still has to pay but enjoyed taking the piss out of me.
I can only get my own back by telling him I intend to vote for Reform, as that really winds him up.
Coming up to retirement is not the time to vote for Reform's plan for paying for medical treatment.
 
What a load of garbage. I'm 67 years old, perfectly capable, and have more than enough 'savvy' to understand what is going on.

It was our generation that developed the home computer and video games back in the 70's and 80's, and embraced the internet when it first became available.
67 year olds should be running the world; it would be a far better place. At least until June when we'll let 68 year olds have a go.
 
Why did you reference the triple lock, if not to offer up a mitigating factor for the loss of the WFA?

Perhaps you should read your post again, or maybe you can reach out to the comrades on one of your WhatsApp groups. I’m sure there’s plenty on there about pensioners.
The dicks justifying the loss of WFA are proper not rights and even trying to say the triple lock makes it all fine and dandy is just mental.

The state pension is wank. They should try living on 210 quid a week and see what it's like.

Triple fucking lock my arse. Based on a 40 hour week we get £5.25 an hour.

Live on that you cunts.
 
My mate, who is a well paid civil servant but is about 69, takes his state pension and civil service pension and continues to work for the Government, in a very well paid job.
He is a fully paid up Labour Party member and a rag, to rub the salt in...
He often jokes that the WFA was his Christmas wine money,
When I came to get mine Starmer cancelled it... I needed it but hey oh...
My mate acknowledges that he lost the WFA, in the tax he still has to pay but enjoyed taking the piss out of me.
I can only get my own back by telling him I intend to vote for Reform, as that really winds him up.
Sounds like your pal needs a good smack round the head
 
What a load of garbage. I'm 67 years old, perfectly capable, and have more than enough 'savvy' to understand what is going on.

It was our generation that developed the home computer and video games back in the 70's and 80's, and embraced the internet when it first became available.
and so we are the generation who should be looked after and not conned.
 
I think Vics caring point was millions haven't died though.

That appears to be his line in the sand:-)
Yeah, sorry, it was a bit of hyperbole based on the hyperbole of how many people would die without the WFA. Like the poster recently who lied about his freezing parents. Fuel poverty may well put old people at risk (who are at risk anyway in cold weather) but it puts families with children at risk too. Yet some are OK with cutting benefits to anyone other than pensioners.
 
Every generation should be looked after don't you agree? Maybe everyone should get the wfa regardless of age.
No...... There is minimum wage legislation now which I think is much more than £210 a week on 40 hours work.

I wouldn't want it when I was capable of doing my job (General building labourer and loading aircraft at Manchester Airport)....I could do extra work or get a second job. I never expected hand outs as a working person but I was expecting a decent pension after 50 years hard physical graft as my generation were told to pay our National Insurance and we would get a pension.

If I'd been told how shit it would be maybe I'd have done some extra robbing. None of our lot could afford to go to University etc and most were kicked out of the house at 17. That doesn't happen these days.

No wonder the prisons are full costing you all even more money.
 

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