The Labour Government

Corrected for you.

Your opinion, which is fair enough but you don't know what would drive other people to vote for any party..... the polls tell us we have a lot of unintelligent people the country.
It's not one party that makes you vote for another party...that's just silly. How does that work? "I don't like this Labour Gov, so I'm going to vote for the worst of a bunch" ? The proven liars? Does Labour MAKE you fucking stupid?
 
Oh I forgot to mention that I need to drop Starmer a line to thank him for reducing my motor insurance this year... down from £345.04 down to £249.88.

Keep up the good work Keir.
That's the Welsh 20mph limits, and low-traffic neighborhoods working through the system.
 
It's not one party that makes you vote for another party...that's just silly. How does that work? "I don't like this Labour Gov, so I'm going to vote for the worst of a bunch" ? The proven liars? Does Labour MAKE you fucking stupid?
The best of a very bad bunch, where the two main protagonists have failed spectacularly over the last twenty years...You do know the definition of madness don't you? Madness is to keep doing (voting) the same thing (voting Labour or Tories) and expecting a different result (outcome)

So in a two horse race you think the Tories or Labour are better then fine, vote for them if you must and show the world that you're mad.
 
Oh I forgot to mention that I need to drop Starmer a line to thank him for reducing my motor insurance this year... down from £345.04 down to £249.88.

Keep up the good work Keir.
Well it's not that long ago you actually were blaming Labour for things like your car insurance going up. I assume you now accept that not to be the case? Good, you see, coming on BM has educated you. Now, let's deal with all the other nonsense you come out with.
 
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Thank the Lord we have Labour eh? Mind you the lower insurance premiums are nationwide meaning it's got nothing to do with 20mph limits.

Praise be to Keir.


"In June 2024, insurer esure reported that vehicle damage claims in Wales fell by 20% following the introduction of the default 20mph limit. The company estimated that a nationwide rollout of such zones could save drivers approximately £50 annually on motor insurance."
 
My "irrational hatred" for Starmer is easily eclipsed by yours and other posters irrational logic that I am a Farage fan.... It's just great to know I have quality stalkers that cannot resist wheelling out the same old pointless crap.

Pointless you might ask.... well at no point (stalker no.1 off to check as is his want) have I ever pledged allegiance to Farage, it's just the historic record and performance of Labour and ories that push me that way...

Still if you guys get a lovely warm glow and a superiority complex from talking absolute rubbish, then I am really glad to be of service to you.

Have a nice day.
Not sure what’s irrational about looking at the fact you’re going to vote Reform and also that your outlook mirrors a lot of Reform talking points. It’s not that irrational to put two and two together and come to the conclusion you support Farage. What’s more irrational is your nonsense about only voting Reform because Labour and the Tories made you and you really don’t like Farage. It’s either irrational or cowardly because you’re scared to admit it in case people think you’re a twat. Bit late for that now.
 
Not sure what’s irrational about looking at the fact you’re going to vote Reform and also that your outlook mirrors a lot of Reform talking points. It’s not that irrational to put two and two together and come to the conclusion you support Farage. What’s more irrational is your nonsense about only voting Reform because Labour and the Tories made you and you really don’t like Farage. It’s either irrational or cowardly because you’re scared to admit it in case people think you’re a twat. Bit late for that now.
Not sure about BJ1 but I’ve found that the few Reform voters I know were Farage followers and the Brexit party. Surely Joe wouldn’t have been a Brexit voter, knowing how much Wales would lose in EU subsidies.
 
He does set himself up!

Nothing to do with Welsh Labours 20mph speed limit..... its all down to Keir the wonder man


LONDON, January 15, 2025 — Comprehensive car insurance premiums have decreased by 16% (£161) during the last 12 months. UK motorists are now paying £834 on average, according to the latest Confused.com Car Insurance Price Index in association with WTW (NASDAQ: WTW), a leading global advisory, broking and solutions company.

This is the biggest annual percentage decrease since 2014 and follows a two-year-long upward trajectory in prices from 2021 to 2023, according to the longest established and most comprehensive car insurance price index in the UK. Car insurance premiums have now fallen for four consecutive quarters following price drops of 5% (£54) in the first three months of 2024, 6% (£59) in the second quarter and 2% in the third quarter.

Drivers in Manchester and Merseyside saw the largest percentage decrease in the cost of comprehensive car insurance,

it's all here


you don't half set yourself up.....
 
The best of a very bad bunch, where the two main protagonists have failed spectacularly over the last twenty years...You do know the definition of madness don't you? Madness is to keep doing (voting) the same thing (voting Labour or Tories) and expecting a different result (outcome)

So in a two horse race you think the Tories or Labour are better then fine, vote for them if you must and show the world that you're mad.
You do know you only vote for your local MP, don't you? I can't change the government.
But anyway...Reform is the worst of ANY bunch. Kids in school could put up more meaningful policies than Farage. It's the party for thickos full of hate. Same as MAGA.
 
Nothing to do with Welsh Labours 20mph speed limit..... its all down to Keir the wonder man


LONDON, January 15, 2025 — Comprehensive car insurance premiums have decreased by 16% (£161) during the last 12 months. UK motorists are now paying £834 on average, according to the latest Confused.com Car Insurance Price Index in association with WTW (NASDAQ: WTW), a leading global advisory, broking and solutions company.

This is the biggest annual percentage decrease since 2014 and follows a two-year-long upward trajectory in prices from 2021 to 2023, according to the longest established and most comprehensive car insurance price index in the UK. Car insurance premiums have now fallen for four consecutive quarters following price drops of 5% (£54) in the first three months of 2024, 6% (£59) in the second quarter and 2% in the third quarter.

Drivers in Manchester and Merseyside saw the largest percentage decrease in the cost of comprehensive car insurance,

it's all here


you don't half set yourself up.....
That makes your moan in the Spring look even more stupid then. But then going off your performance this week, you're usually about 6 months behind on news.

Have you considered that one of the reasons may well be a bigger up take of 20mph limits nationwide? The whole town here is now 20mph.

also

"Lower levels of inflation and sustained reduced motor claims frequency in 2024 allowed insurers to continue to drop rates for consumers"

Could the reduction of claims be partly attributable to lower speed incidents?
 
Corrected for you.

Your opinion, which is fair enough but you don't know what would drive other people to vote for any party..... the polls tell us we have a lot of unintelligent people the country.


The average reading age in the UK (after 15 years of Tory / Gove reforms ) Joe is 9 years of age .... lower than Communist Cuba .... barely '' The Sun'' reading ability.


Right wingers don't like an educated population.
 
Nothing to do with Welsh Labours 20mph speed limit..... its all down to Keir the wonder man


LONDON, January 15, 2025 — Comprehensive car insurance premiums have decreased by 16% (£161) during the last 12 months. UK motorists are now paying £834 on average, according to the latest Confused.com Car Insurance Price Index in association with WTW (NASDAQ: WTW), a leading global advisory, broking and solutions company.

This is the biggest annual percentage decrease since 2014 and follows a two-year-long upward trajectory in prices from 2021 to 2023, according to the longest established and most comprehensive car insurance price index in the UK. Car insurance premiums have now fallen for four consecutive quarters following price drops of 5% (£54) in the first three months of 2024, 6% (£59) in the second quarter and 2% in the third quarter.

Drivers in Manchester and Merseyside saw the largest percentage decrease in the cost of comprehensive car insurance,

it's all here


you don't half set yourself up.....
Plenty of 20mph zones near me. They’re down to Manchester City Council that happens to be majority Labour.
 
Not sure what’s irrational about looking at the fact you’re going to vote Reform and also that your outlook mirrors a lot of Reform talking points. It’s not that irrational to put two and two together and come to the conclusion you support Farage. What’s more irrational is your nonsense about only voting Reform because Labour and the Tories made you and you really don’t like Farage. It’s either irrational or cowardly because you’re scared to admit it in case people think you’re a twat. Bit late for that now.

Well a few of us on here including you have been here for a while and I can honestly say I have never seen such a conserted effort by a group of posters to get one single voter to change or explain why he is gonna vote for a particular party.

Months have passed
He stated his reasons again and again and again
You lot think he's daft or not telling the truth and have said so again and again.

Is it a coincidence that it's the same people who cannot just let something go,? Day in day out, week in week out, month in month out, year in year out.

If he was gonna change his mind or see the light, sorry your light he would have done so by now. As his vote won't change one fucking thing about his or our lives why not just let it go? What is this need you have?

There's believing you're right, there's trying to impart sense to people there's even room for.a bit of arguing but fuck me let it go. It doesn't get much less significant than one blokes vote on a football forum.
 
I never said ignore but he's not changing his mind and it is getting a bit incessant. Anyhow I will leave you to it.

We’ve known for months and months he won’t change his mind. We can all tell his a diehard Farage loving Reformer - it’s when he pretends his not that he gets called out.
 
I know but how many times are you gonna do it? It doesn't appear to be working.

I’ll continually call him out when he is being a duplicitous lying coward and I can be bothered. Not arsed about changing his mind - that was never my intention. If he wants to vote for Reform then good for him - but when he says he’s voting for them to give Labour a kicking and that he doesn’t actually like Reform then his full of shit and deserves being pulled up.
 
I never said ignore but he's not changing his mind and it is getting a bit incessant. Anyhow I will leave you to it.

He is quite an odd poster to be fair, in that I asked him a couple of months ago what policies he wanted to see implemented and it aligned a lot more with left wing parties than Reform, I asked him to try a who should I vote for questionnaire to see what the results showed but I don’t think he did it.

You’re right he’s not changing his mind though and he’s perfectly entitled not to, I get why people challenge his position too though as it is contrary to say the least.

Does make me wonder how many other reform voters think similarly as im not sure how people can combat that.
 

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