the money stick we get beaten by

[Didsbury Dave]

I liked the 'we had to build a new stadium' line tossed in by that arsenal fan. Like the great tsunami had swept Highbury away and the insurance wouldn't pay out.

Arsenal chose to buy a new stadium. They didn't have to , but did that for he simple reason that it would generate more revenue. They had a good team but chose to invest heavily in new infrastructure for the sole reason of generating more money in the long term to buy and pay players. This wasn't arsenals own cash reserves, this was money they borrowed and are now paying back.

We had the infrastructure but didn't have the players. So we invested In players just like arsenal did in the 90s and are moving towards getting a return from this investment. We are now also doing exactly the same as arsenal and investing in our own infrastructure for exactly the same reason as they did.

So basically what city are doing is exactly the same as what arsenal did only over a shorter timeframe. I am sure it hurts arsenal fans that they aren't attractive enough and astute enough to attract a big money investor like ours. But the moral high grounding over the whole thing is laughable.

They'd give anything for a sheikh mansour. Every last one of the hypocritical bleating goats.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Each to their own.

Indeed, and yet you continue to treat those that raise what is at worst a legitimate topic, as though they were certifiable loons walking around with tin foil lining their hats

Because some of the accusations are just plain stupid. On this thread I'm not calling anyone out for being a loon, I'm putting across points that show the money stick thing is part and parcel of having an owner pump money into a club like ours has, and that in my opinion based on our success since that money has come, fans from around the world now watching us and the relatively constant stories we hear of yet more partners coming into the club, it's not doing any harm whatsoever. Someone would have to be very weak minded to not want to invest in the club or support us just because someone on SSN said something about the money we've spent. That's my opinion and you have yours.

As it goes, I agree with a lot of that. However, just because we seem to be doing ok, does not necessarily mean that negative press is not having an impact on us. As I said, there could have been more investors and more new fans had we been promoted in a more positive light, but we'll never know for sure one way or the other

 

[mancityvstoke]

I liked the 'we had to build a new stadium' line tossed in by that arsenal fan. Like the great tsunami had swept Highbury away and the insurance wouldn't pay out.

Arsenal chose to buy a new stadium. They didn't have to , but did that for he simple reason that it would generate more revenue. They had a good team but chose to invest heavily in new infrastructure for the sole reason of generating more money in the long term to buy and pay players. This wasn't arsenals own cash reserves, this was money they borrowed and are now paying back.

We had the infrastructure but didn't have the players. So we invested In players just like arsenal did in the 90s and are moving towards getting a return from this investment. We are now also doing exactly the same as arsenal and investing in our own infrastructure for exactly the same reason as they did.

So basically what city are doing is exactly the same as what arsenal did only over a shorter timeframe. I am sure it hurts arsenal fans that they aren't attractive enough and astute enough to attract a big money investor like ours. But the moral high grounding over the whole thing is laughable.

They'd give anything for a sheikh mansour. Every last one of the hypocritical bleating goats.

spot on

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I liked the 'we had to build a new stadium' line tossed in by that arsenal fan. Like the great tsunami had swept Highbury away and the insurance wouldn't pay out.

Arsenal chose to buy a new stadium. They didn't have to , but did that for he simple reason that it would generate more revenue. They had a good team but chose to invest heavily in new infrastructure for the sole reason of generating more money in the long term to buy and pay players. This wasn't arsenals own cash reserves, this was money they borrowed and are now paying back.

We had the infrastructure but didn't have the players. So we invested In players just like arsenal did in the 90s and are moving towards getting a return from this investment. We are now also doing exactly the same as arsenal and investing in our own infrastructure for exactly the same reason as they did.

So basically what city are doing is exactly the same as what arsenal did only over a shorter timeframe. I am sure it hurts arsenal fans that they aren't attractive enough and astute enough to attract a big money investor like ours. But the moral high grounding over the whole thing is laughable.

They'd give anything for a sheikh mansour. Every last one of the hypocritical bleating goats.

Well said DD. Also they're all going to be in for an 'orrible shock when we start turning a profit from next year.

 

[Bilboblue]

I liked the 'we had to build a new stadium' line tossed in by that arsenal fan. Like the great tsunami had swept Highbury away and the insurance wouldn't pay out.

Arsenal chose to buy a new stadium. They didn't have to , but did that for he simple reason that it would generate more revenue. They had a good team but chose to invest heavily in new infrastructure for the sole reason of generating more money in the long term to buy and pay players. This wasn't arsenals own cash reserves, this was money they borrowed and are now paying back.

We had the infrastructure but didn't have the players. So we invested In players just like arsenal did in the 90s and are moving towards getting a return from this investment. We are now also doing exactly the same as arsenal and investing in our own infrastructure for exactly the same reason as they did.

So basically what city are doing is exactly the same as what arsenal did only over a shorter timeframe. I am sure it hurts arsenal fans that they aren't attractive enough and astute enough to attract a big money investor like ours. But the moral high grounding over the whole thing is laughable.

They'd give anything for a sheikh mansour. Every last one of the hypocritical bleating goats.

They already have one waiting to spend his cash but the board won't let him.

Loads of gooners in the summer saying he needs to be allowed to invest.

 

[fathellensbellend]

I see the moral guardians of the game are offering wenger a new 3 year deal at 24 million pounds, seems a lot of money for 4th, hope it fits in with FFP.

 

[bluestevei]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that there is a direct correlation between money spent on a squad and league position.

City has spent the most, has the strongest squad and because of that is deservedly hot favourites to lift the title in May.

City can also afford to pay the best wages which means that all things being equal, it can better attract the best players.

These are all facts. You can't have it both ways - you have to accept that you could not achieve your success without having splashed the cash on the best players available. If UEFA thinks that's fine and you comply with the FFP rules, then so what? Enjoy your success. Before the Abu Dhabi money, you were more often than not, a yo yo team unable to match the big clubs for honours. So, rather than bleat that other fans are being horrid to you because of your Arab sugar daddy, accept that with money and success comes the rightful accusation it was money bought. After all, that's just stating the bleedin' obvious.

As to the match yesterday, I was in the away end in the south stand. We lost, you were the better team and although it pains me to say it, the title is yours to lose. Our lack of squad depth was highlighted yesterday by the result which showed we lack your ability to rotate key players. I thought we looked very leggy in the last 20 minutes. Your strong squad will prove pivotal over a season. As much as I'd hope to strengthen in January, I suspect we won't.

I don't understand you have billionaire owners and the most expensive tickets in Europe yet somehow all you lot do is go on about money. You need to ask serious questions what the fcuk is going on in your club.

But but but...we do it the right way, the organic way.

The difference is that our billionaire owner doesn't put his money into the club. Even if he did, he'd be a relative pauper compared to Sheik Mansour.

We can't afford to pay players £200k a week. We have had to finance a new stadium. Who paid for yours? Our net spending on players over the past 8 years has been minimal. You get hit by the big money stick? Diddums. We don't have your cash and we get hit by the no trophies won stick. So what. Support your team and move on.

I think that selling highbury and getting 100 million for naming rights did help you. our owners are spending 100 million on the new training complex and also building on the stadium, all out of his own money. now your words

The difference is that our billionaire owner doesn't put his money into the club. but he should as he is your owner

 

[JULES]

on the subject of the English players moan

58'Liverpool have never lost a Premier League match in which they have had a two-goal lead at half-time. They have been in the position 73 times, winning 71 and drawing twice.57'Lennon tries to find a way to trouble Liverpool, but his touch deserts him at the wrong moment as the ball races out of play for a goalkick to the visitors.56' Liverpool currently have the most goals from English players in the Premier League, alongside Southampton, with 14. Man Utd are close behind, on 13, after three goals from English players earlier today.

must be that goals from English players are worth 2 from jonny foreigner

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Hi Guys, LFC fan here.

Just wondering, when Chelsea were buying success, before you got the money, did you not have a go at Chelsea fans for doing it? Yet now you're in the same situation as them you say things like "You need money to succeed" etc?

I do think you have gone about it in the right way though, you have, unlike Chelsea, put money into the academy and are trying to do things properly. But you're team has SO FEW English players. The only one I can think of is Milner! Surely you cannot deny that you would have liked to have seen City work they're socks off and earn their way to the top? Surely?

Obviously it must be nice to see your team where they are, but come on!

Anyway, its my first post so hello everyone!
Not looking forward to playing you guys in... 2 weeks time is it? :)

That bit about working our socks off is one of the most fantastically ignorant and oft repeated banalties to come out of the mouths of just about every deluded and smug rag, scouse or gooner simpleton I've ever met.....because of course the self perpetuating cartel that is the chimps league acts as a glass ceiling on all those clubs not in it. In 20 odd years I think only Spurs and City have broken into a qualifying place, and even then it was due only largely to Liverpool's implosion under Paella De Ville

 

[Bilboblue]

Hi Guys, LFC fan here.

Just wondering, when Chelsea were buying success, before you got the money, did you not have a go at Chelsea fans for doing it? Yet now you're in the same situation as them you say things like "You need money to succeed" etc?

I do think you have gone about it in the right way though, you have, unlike Chelsea, put money into the academy and are trying to do things properly. But you're team has SO FEW English players. The only one I can think of is Milner! Surely you cannot deny that you would have liked to have seen City work they're socks off and earn their way to the top? Surely?

Obviously it must be nice to see your team where they are, but come on!

Anyway, its my first post so hello everyone!
Not looking forward to playing you guys in... 2 weeks time is it? :)

That bit about working our socks off is one of the most fantastically ignorant and oft repeated banalties to come out of the mouths of just about every deluded and smug rag, scouse or gooner simpleton I've ever met.....because of course the self perpetuating cartel that is the chimps league acts as a glass ceiling on all those clubs not in it. In 20 odd years I think only Spurs and City have broken into a qualifying place, and even then it was due only largely to Liverpool's implosion under Paella De Ville

Everton once too.

Then Liverpool won the competition, and Everton got knocked out in the qualifiers.

David Moyes is a football genius.