The new young guvnors book

[Steharry]

Have to spill this. Pretty sure the black fella at front was sporting an even more dreadful top near the Sacred Heart at Villa last week ; think it said 'young guvnors' - I was wearing no colours myself and with a younger fella in toe think they thought I was Chelsea ! I would hav stopped for a chat but I was laughing uncontrolably at his t shirt - please can anyone confirm if it was a dare ?

Yes I saw him near the ground before kick off, had to do a double take to confirm that someone would really wear a shirt with a name of a 'firm' on. Or maybe that was its desired effect...

 

[BluePurgatory]

What are the requirements of being in a firm?

Do you have to be genuinely good at fighting, or just able to get drunk and be comfortable in acting like a cocky prick when there's 30 lads all around you, willing to back you up?

I'd give it a go for one day, one of these organised firm meeting things.
One condition though - if weapons are allowed then can I bring my Samurai Sword please Guvnor?

Just being an arsehole seemed to work

Dont let Maintainin hear you say that coz he will set his gang on ya. Only jesting maintainin love and kisses xxx

 

[lungy]

Bumped into Rodney after qpr game last season, top banana! Sometimes,just sometimes, you get embroiled into having a go, like when I saw the scum in black hitting innocent people with children after the league cup semi and Wembley. Cowards

 

[sheikmedick]

it's not only hooligans that starts a rumble...

Correct, it's usually gob shite little cunts dressed in black who then leg it and leave it to someone else to deal with, as with any form of violence. I used to work with a bloke who claimed to be big on the scene. A complete fucking shit head I had him down as from the moment I met him. A bully, bullying us as the newbies and giving it the big I am. City v Wolves at some point in the mid-late 90's. Trouble starts outside City Chippy and who's the first one I see legging it away from a group of Wolves fans? That's right, my work colleague who shall remain nameless as I know he posts on here. I pissed my sides watching that and it confirmed what I already knew. I would hazard a massive guess that he mouthed off something to start that trouble, yet was the first one to avoid finishing it. I've seen it since I started going in the late 80's from all fans of all clubs. 'Boro in the late 90's storming the North Stand and hitting women and kids - fucking shit houses. So don't give me these lot here are angelic little heroes because they won't be.

I agree that it isn't always firm against firm.....one of the worst things I saw at a match was in the North Stand v Liverpool in the 80s...2 men 2 women supporting Liverpool and not hiding it they must have been green as fucking grass to even do it when I think back....they were not hooligans or part of a firm and probably day trippers but they got fucking cracked, spat on and showered in coffee as they were taken out of the ground

I remember that as well, was,nt it in the Maine stand when they were doing the kippax up.a girl jumped up and started clapping when Liverpool scored.next minute two hard bastards sorted em out.Best thing I saw that season was two city fans have a fight at half time whilst one of them was holding his young son under his arm.class

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

Nothing wrong with it not been your thing mate.

Just annoys me a teeny bit when people brand everyone involved as brain dead idiots. You might be surprised if you knew one or two of these cavemen prior to knowing what they got up to.

Who knows, maybe you do, without even knowing it?

That sounds like the perfect way to describe one group of adult males who for no specific reason meet up with another group for the sole purpose of "having a ruck" In what world is it acceptable to defend this kind of behavior?

Human nature. We might have evolved from cavemen by expanding our technology but we are still essentially cavemen. Humans always have been and always will be a dangerous, violent species. Just because some people have integrated into a calmer society it doesnt mean everyone has and there are anything from doleys to barristers involved in this sort of stuff.

I don't believe that for 1 second, absolute nonsense in fact. If what your saying was true the vast majority of people would indulge in that kind of behavior. A calmer society? Were not wild animals, we have brains more much advanced than any other animal and can certainly refrain from unnecessary violence. Now I'm no evolutionary biologist and I'll stick my neck on the line and say your not either. So it might come as news to you that Neanderthals or cavemen as you put it are a completely separate species to us humans, or our correct title, Homo-sapien

 

[Maintainin]

What are the requirements of being in a firm?

Do you have to be genuinely good at fighting, or just able to get drunk and be comfortable in acting like a cocky prick when there's 30 lads all around you, willing to back you up?

I'd give it a go for one day, one of these organised firm meeting things.
One condition though - if weapons are allowed then can I bring my Samurai Sword please Guvnor?

Just being an arsehole seemed to work

Dont let Maintainin hear you say that coz he will set his gang on ya. Only jesting maintainin love and kisses xxx

;-)

 

[meeesh]

I will buy the book and read it for deffo,these lads (although I dont condone violence) are what football clubs have.

As long as they would help out old Blues,and women with kids in trouble,which am sure they would at any games were it was going off,then they would always get my blessing

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

I will buy the book and read it for deffo,these lads (although I dont condone violence) are what football clubs have.

As long as they would help out old Blues,and women with kids in trouble,which am sure they would at any games were it was going off,then they would always get my blessing

I understand the helping out fellow blues, but who are they defending us against? Their opposite numbers. The mindless idiots of other clubs, if they were eradicated from both sides then we wouldn't need defending.

 

[grim up north]

That sounds like the perfect way to describe one group of adult males who for no specific reason meet up with another group for the sole purpose of "having a ruck" In what world is it acceptable to defend this kind of behavior?

Human nature. We might have evolved from cavemen by expanding our technology but we are still essentially cavemen. Humans always have been and always will be a dangerous, violent species. Just because some people have integrated into a calmer society it doesnt mean everyone has and there are anything from doleys to barristers involved in this sort of stuff.

I don't believe that for 1 second, absolute nonsense in fact. If what your saying was true the vast majority of people would indulge in that kind of behavior. A calmer society? Were not wild animals, we have brains more much advanced than any other animal and can certainly refrain from unnecessary violence. Now I'm no evolutionary biologist and I'll stick my neck on the line and say your not either. So it might come as news to you that Neanderthals or cavemen as you put it are a completely separate species to us humans, or our correct title, Homo-sapien

Every time I put the TV news on homo-sapiiens seem to be killing each other

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

Human nature. We might have evolved from cavemen by expanding our technology but we are still essentially cavemen. Humans always have been and always will be a dangerous, violent species. Just because some people have integrated into a calmer society it doesnt mean everyone has and there are anything from doleys to barristers involved in this sort of stuff.

I don't believe that for 1 second, absolute nonsense in fact. If what your saying was true the vast majority of people would indulge in that kind of behavior. A calmer society? Were not wild animals, we have brains more much advanced than any other animal and can certainly refrain from unnecessary violence. Now I'm no evolutionary biologist and I'll stick my neck on the line and say your not either. So it might come as news to you that Neanderthals or cavemen as you put it are a completely separate species to us humans, or our correct title, Homo-sapien

Every time I put the TV news on homo-sapiiens seem to be killing each other

Because of a football game? Thought not.