The PGMOL Apologies Thread

Well I suspect that both organisations do not want to be transparent , thus providing the opportunity to avoid exposing clearly nefarious/ corrupt decisions .

Not an act of good faith or integrity imo

No, I do think it will inevitably come eventually though.

They’ve made the first tiny step with the refs announcing overturns. But they don’t like changing anything in a rush.
 
I understand that was the given reason, but I do not believe that was the actual reason.

And I have not called for doing away with VAR.
Ah ok, never let the truth spoil a good conspiracy theory I say ;)

And I didn't suggest you had called for doing away with VAR
 
Ah ok, never let the truth spoil a good conspiracy theory I say ;)

And I didn't suggest you had called for doing away with VAR
The PL and PGMOL should never be associated with “truth”. ;-)

Also, there have been plenty of “improvements” that were spun as positives for fans, but in reality only served to make VAR an even more opaque system.
 
Last night's ref and VAR performance was either corrupt or inept. Either way Salisbury and Hooper shouldn't ref again in the PL. But wait Salisbury made a mistake on VAR last season. Just one game drop. No real punishment, just carry on as normal lads, this level of incompetence is acceptable is the message from Webb and Moss.
 
The “clear and obvious error” threshold was solely devised to allow for continued manipulation via officiating, as it allows VAR to defer to the referee for any “subjective” decision (most of the decisions that are made), regardless of whether there was an “error” made, essentially allowing referees to continue to influence matches when it suits and provide following the LotG as cover for it.

In nearly every other sport using a version of video replay, the threshold is “was an error made”, whether or not it was clear or obvious.

In fact, the point of video replay is to catch the incidents that could not have been clear or obvious to the officials, so making that the threshold negates much of the utility of video replay.

At which point any reasonable person should ask themselves why the governing bodies would want to effectively substantially lower the utility of video replay (and why it is being used differently to most other sports).
Every other sport uses video replays in an open way so even if you disagree you’ve heard the logic and process in full.
 
Last night's ref and VAR performance was either corrupt or inept. Either way Salisbury and Hooper shouldn't ref again in the PL. But wait Salisbury made a mistake on VAR last season. Just one game drop. No real punishment, just carry on as normal lads, this level of incompetence is acceptable is the message from Webb and Moss.
They are like the Masons, everything behind closed doors with funny handshakes and bared breasts.
 
Mass walkout by fans would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Not walk outs but sit it's after the final whistle.

Easier to organise, no in- match disruption.

Select two dates so that everyone gets a home game & away game.

Publicise the bollocks off the dates for max national & International media exposure.

Get the BLACK FLAGS out..but remember this is against all the authorities AND the complicit rags !!
 
Frankly, like the public sector, PGMOL enjoy the luxury that there is no effective sanction against poor performance . People who are crap or worse, clearly biased, should be fired, starting with Darren England.
 

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