Mate, it turns out you are not as well informed as you thought. Not a crime being wrong on the internet - I often do it myself. Every day a school day etc . .....You know if you’re lying on the floor you head isn’t ‘head height’ yeah?
Exactly no way did he prevent a ball going towards the goal, he had no intention at all to handle it and it was heading out if play. Barely touched the ball anyway it just brushed his finger.Excellent post. That backs up my view. Grealish was not looking at the ball and his arm was justifiably high because he was jumping. To make matters worse the ball was headed away from the goal itself. I can understand those sort of decisions when the ball is heading for the net. There was no way he was trying to make himself bigger to block any shot. He had no idea where the ball was.
I'm sorry what?? no one is lying on the floor, the defender is leaning back I'll give you that, but that doesn't change the fact that his arm is raised to above shoulder height, which is very clear on the photoYou know if you’re lying on the floor you head isn’t ‘head height’ yeah?
1, even if its being given a lot (not at spuds tho), it doesnt mean it should be. Its just another example of refs/officials not having a clue and not adhering to the laws of the game. The games littered with examples of this every weekend!I’m not being complicit. I very rarely give my own opinion on here on what I would like the law to be. Because it’s pretty pointless.
If the ball hits a player on the hand above shoulder height, then yes it is a penalty, virtually every single time. That is fact. It explicitly says it is in the laws of the game.
That’s all I was commenting on, in reply to whoever it was who originally said it was a poor decision.
I’m not saying we can’t talk about how wrong we think the laws are. Or move for them to be charged. But nothing is going to change the fact that at this moment in time the Grealish incident was a handball every time and the easiest decision a VAR will have had last season, once he’d established the ball had touched his hand.
Mate, it turns out you are not as well informed as you thought. Not a crime being wrong on the internet - I often do it myself. Every day a school day etc . .....
I think there is now so much shadow, obfuscation, and double-speak within the laws that it allows the ref/VAR combo to establish another iteration with each match and within each match. Jack's fingernail and the Spurs player's palm just show how ridiculous it has become. We have the written LotG which, with a modicum of study, along with the International Board decisions, can be understood prior to kick off, and before the ref blows for HT we have a situation that isn't adequately covered within the written laws and which the ref and VAR make up before our eyes,or change what was written.1, even if its being given a lot (not at spuds tho), it doesnt mean it should be. Its just another example of refs/officials not having a clue and not adhering to the laws of the game. The games littered with examples of this every weekend!
2, it literally doesnt say that in the current laws of the game. Where the hell have you got that from? Laughable…
3, Grealish’ wasnt looking at the ball, had zero intent to deliberately handle the ball and therefor the fact it hit his hand accidentally should mean no infringement. Its an embarrassment the game has got to this.
I'm counting it as one, first post on page 1 updatedSo they've overturned MacAllister's red card. Does that count as an apology?
Why then state something is fact if you have not checked to see if it is in fact, err, fact?I would never claim to be an expert. But I do try and keep up to date with the laws of the game. The current edition is 230 pages long. So yes, stuff changes that I’m not aware of sometimes. I’m not too proud to admit that.
Why then state something is fact if you have not checked to see if it is in fact, err, fact?
Then perhaps the lesson of the day is only (repeatedly) say something is fact (in a somewhat condescending fashion) when you have checked that it is actually fact.Because obviously I thought it was a fact when I said it.
Then perhaps the lesson of the day is only (repeatedly) say something is fact (in a somewhat condescending fashion) when you have checked that it is actually fact.
That is fact.Imagine posting in a condescending fashion on here.
No but they should. Not for for purpose.Have PiGMOL apologised to Fukham yet?
Then perhaps the lesson of the day is only (repeatedly) say something is fact (in a somewhat condescending fashion) when you have checked that it is actually fact.
I think you are being very generous with the stance that “when aggressively debating something, you don’t really need to know what exactly it is you are debating”.To be fair, people get confused between the laws of the game and the way those laws are applied in England with the referee's interpretations. The laws of the game are there for everybody to read and, generally, are very sensible and "easy" to understand. "Easy" as in the context of a game we all understand reasonably well. The problem with referee's interpretations is that we have never seen them (have we?), so we don't know how the laws are being applied, other than getting a few generic comments at the start of every season, unless we try to guess them from watching the decisions made. So it's natural no-one has a bloody clue. Probably how they like it.
I think you are being very generous with the stance that “when aggressively debating something, you don’t really need to know what exactly it is you are debating”.
Don’t fucking want that at all… Euro refs are absolutely shite. They ref like they’ve never kicked a ball.Here is a thought. Why don't the five big leagues create a Euro PGMOL to oversee their matches. Referees couldn't take charge of matches in their home countries.
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