The PGMOL Apologies Thread

[city2]

Corruption at the highest level. Have the rags ever had a var incident go against them at the shithole.

 

[Corky]

Frankly, like the public sector, PGMOL enjoy the luxury that there is no effective sanction against poor performance . People who are crap or worse, clearly biased, should be fired, starting with Darren England.

Judicial Review. Ombudsman.

Plus refs get promoted like teams do and if you don't ref you don't get a match fee.

 

[Stephen230]

Not walk outs but sit it's after the final whistle.

Easier to organise, no in- match disruption.

Select two dates so that everyone gets a home game & away game.

Publicise the bollocks off the dates for max national & International media exposure.

Get the BLACK FLAGS out..but remember this is against all the authorities AND the complicit rags !!

Have you got a black flag shop or some shit?

The only other people into black flags as much as you are anarchists and The Taliban.

 

[cheekybids]

I understand that the "clear and obvious" element was included in the VAR implementation rules/criteria as a means to pacify elements of fans who were against the introduction of VAR on the basis that it would prolong and/or interrupt the flow of games were it to be used for every potential error, and again I believe this was widely accepted as a good call initially.

The issue now is that this watering down is seemingly being used to justify calls which benefit certain clubs on a pretty regular basis, which is wrong whatever the underlying cause/reason.

Those who call for VAR to be dropped on the basis that we should just go back to the on field ref are delusional if they think that that would change anything. Have they so soon forgotten the horrendous decisions made in just the same way and on an even more regular basis than since VAR was introduced?

It’s being used totally different in the women’s World Cup. They are 100% over ruling on-field ref by trusting technology & checking every goal, penalty appeal.

 

[cheekybids]

I’m the opposite because no way would a ref who has a get out of “I didn’t see it” ever give that.

So it’s simple VAR can’t make mistakes. They’ve lied by saying it wasn’t clear & obvious when it was. Just apply the law & the cover up needs investigating by the premier league. Surely the members don’t just complain about City, surely they say it is important to re-referee when refs are shit scared of giving decisions at OT or Anfield against them.

Howard Webb contacts Wolves over failure to award penalty
https://mol.im/a/12409145


He said: 'I don't think the officials are trying to favour one side. I just think it's human nature. If there's a decision you're not sure about, everyone would be impacted by the Old Trafford crowd and the fact it's Manchester United.

'That's why I think VAR should be able to help more in those situations. Before I spoke to Jon Moss I was told it was not a clear and obvious error.


This is admission that they are afraid to give decisions at OT & Anfield & precisely why he’s instructed the refs previously to go with the on-field decision. Yet in his statement above he’s throwing his refs under a bus & saying they shouldn’t. The only thing that’s taken him by surprise is the media fuelled by social media outrage. In his hey day the media were complicit with “it evens itself out” bullshit.

I’ll say it again the corruption is unspoken but you know to be rewarded (perform well) you look after Rags & Dippers. He’s got to the top of his field for doing it.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Var is a brilliant tool if used correctly, the main difference is a ref can always see something or not see it, VAR can not, we all have 4k and recordings so we can see VAR cheating on a weekly basis. time to sack the officials using VAR and bring in an independent company , a lot of people believe this new company would be just as corrupt, but not if after the match a club could challenge the incidents, leading to reparation, and the most serious costing European spots or relegation, the full cost of missing out all charged to the independent company.

 

[RodneyRodney]

nothing wrong with being pedantic if you're also correct :)

He was being subjective

 

[RodneyRodney]

Perhaps they should do a review system like Cricket and Tennis,the captains have say 3 reviews per game.
If the captain thinks that the ref should go to the VAR screen (only circumstances that are are deemed worthy) then wouldn't this be a fair alternative?

In the NFL, a coaches challenge system operates, in which a Head Coach may instigate a video review of play after any down, by throwing a red flag onto the field.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Var is a brilliant tool if used correctly, the main difference is a ref can always see something or not see it, VAR can not, we all have 4k and recordings so we can see VAR cheating on a weekly basis. time to sack the officials using VAR and bring in an independent company , a lot of people believe this new company would be just as corrupt, but not if after the match a club could challenge the incidents, leading to reparation, and the most serious costing European spots or relegation, the full cost of missing out all charged to the independent company.

What company is going to take that job then? "Come and regulate our game and if you make a mistake, we'll fine you millions." Yeah, no thanks.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Perhaps they should do a review system like Cricket and Tennis,the captains have say 3 reviews per game.
If the captain thinks that the ref should go to the VAR screen (only circumstances that are are deemed worthy) then wouldn't this be a fair alternative?

VAR is a review system. And it still gets it wrong. Why would it be any different if the manager instigated the review? It'd just be the same "yeah, we've checked and it's not a penalty."