bobbyowenquiff
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They were laughable claims by Woodward but the BBC were happy to run them without any scrutiny or challenge.
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The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement
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They have a big stack of letters ready to make flags, but they’re always running out ofThey're permanently victim-ready, probably got their own printing presses in their basements or got banners pre-printed up for every eventuality.
N’s-O’s-T’s-O’s—U’s-R’s-F’s-A’s-U’s-L’s-T’s
I don't know if it's been done but Utd's poodle in the MUG says that Woodward only knew about the launch 24 hours in advance. Obviously we know that they had they are heavily implicated in its design but I think Perez launched it out of the blue. The question is what was City's thinking?
I don't like option 2 because it seems to me that City although shocked perhaps by the timing would have known all about the ESL and surely it would not work. How on Earth could it be expected to operate in parallel with the Premier League?
I think people outside of Manchester City will struggle to get their heads around this but City fans and executive have had a traumatic 2 years and this is very much the type of underhand horse-trading and dodgy deals we expect. Don't forget this follows Spygate as well as FFP and CAS. We have been at war for a decade. I can well imagine that MCFC have been looking for an opportunity to press the red button for years.
This is the first time since the takeover that we are on an equal footing with the cartel. They've basically been destroyed. By act of God, or by act of a cunning plan?
- Heaven sent opportunity to get Liverpool and Man Utd out in the open. "We'll go Florentino". ANd when they are all signed up. Immediately, resign, and force everyone else out so there's no ESL and maximum possible embarrassment to Liverpool and Man Utd. Already cost Woodward.
- We were caught off-guard and accepted for fear Real Madrid and Barcelona and Man Utd would sail off into the sunset never to be seen again.
I don't like option 2 because it seems to me that City although shocked perhaps by the timing would have known all about the ESL and surely it would not work. How on Earth could it be expected to operate in parallel with the Premier League?
I think people outside of Manchester City will struggle to get their heads around this but City fans and executive have had a traumatic 2 years and this is very much the type of underhand horse-trading and dodgy deals we expect. Don't forget this follows Spygate as well as FFP and CAS. We have been at war for a decade. I can well imagine that MCFC have been looking for an opportunity to press the red button for years.
This is the first time since the takeover that we are on an equal footing with the cartel. They've basically been destroyed. By act of God, or by act of a cunning plan?
LongsightM13
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Well Simon Stone was the author so maybe Ed gave him another watchThey were laughable claims by Woodward but the BBC were happy to run them without any scrutiny or challenge.
If you read what the Guardian says, he claims he did not know about the launch. THat's very different from not knowing about the plan.They were laughable claims by Woodward but the BBC were happy to run them without any scrutiny or challenge.
i was thinking this morning that manchester city could give the fans a small percentage back and become a part owned fan club with every season ticket sold. you could can get a share and a voice on things the club want to move forward with ? the 1894 group could be a major player and should be giving a voice
i seen not so long ago that match going fans are just a small part of the turn over of the club money each season
so why not let the club fans handle the money from season ticket and match day tickets and the club could let the fans have a say on how that money from seasons tickets is used each year
the club could say this is idea or we want this player and your money from season tickets will be used and you can vote for one or the other and if the vote is in favour than it happens
i would like to know the revenue from season tickets and match day tickets come to each season ?
funny that people forget you don't buy the fans just the club ? maybe its time to involve the fans as well
i seen not so long ago that match going fans are just a small part of the turn over of the club money each season
so why not let the club fans handle the money from season ticket and match day tickets and the club could let the fans have a say on how that money from seasons tickets is used each year
the club could say this is idea or we want this player and your money from season tickets will be used and you can vote for one or the other and if the vote is in favour than it happens
i would like to know the revenue from season tickets and match day tickets come to each season ?
funny that people forget you don't buy the fans just the club ? maybe its time to involve the fans as well
bobbyowenquiff
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I wouldn't believe anything Woodward says, especially in the Guardian.If you read what the Guardian says, he claims he did not know about the launch. THat's very different from not knowing about the plan.
If it was a cunning plan, we will never know. If City intended to undermine the whole project via trojan horse, I am quite certain that if it ever was divulged then all of the other clubs could seek legal remuneration. There would likely be a criminal case as well.I don't know if it's been done but Utd's poodle in the MUG says that Woodward only knew about the launch 24 hours in advance. Obviously we know that they had they are heavily implicated in its design but I think Perez launched it out of the blue. The question is what was City's thinking?
- Heaven sent opportunity to get Liverpool and Man Utd out in the open. "We'll go Florentino". ANd when they are all signed up. Immediately, resign, and force everyone else out so there's no ESL and maximum possible embarrassment to Liverpool and Man Utd. Already cost Woodward.
- We were caught off-guard and accepted for fear Real Madrid and Barcelona and Man Utd would sail off into the sunset never to be seen again.
I don't like option 2 because it seems to me that City although shocked perhaps by the timing would have known all about the ESL and surely it would not work. How on Earth could it be expected to operate in parallel with the Premier League?
I think people outside of Manchester City will struggle to get their heads around this but City fans and executive have had a traumatic 2 years and this is very much the type of underhand horse-trading and dodgy deals we expect. Don't forget this follows Spygate as well as FFP and CAS. We have been at war for a decade. I can well imagine that MCFC have been looking for an opportunity to press the red button for years.
This is the first time since the takeover that we are on an equal footing with the cartel. They've basically been destroyed. By act of God, or by act of a cunning plan?
I think the most we can hope for is that City were reluctant to begin with, weren’t given enough time to decide and begrudgingly joined-up for fear of being left behind only to realize that it was a mistake.
I think if you asked City’s board if they could have a do-over, they would have rather just refused to join in the first place. I also think it took courage to be the first to leave. There was no guarantee that the project was going to fail and that the organizations they spurned would be willing to have them back. City could have been royally screwed.
Well Simon Stone was the author so maybe Ed gave him another watch
That fucker wants sacking.
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How this came about:
Rags and Liverpool want to (at least) compete with us, but without significant owner investment. Their owners want to be able to take huge amounts out of the game for their pockets.
Real and Barca believe they have a divine right, not just to success, but to be able to outspend everyone in Europe with ease. Because of this very attitude, they are up to their eyes in debt.
Arsenal - sub-scale versions of Rags/Liverpool.
Spurs - bleeding to death with debt and desperate.
In short, a mixture of entitlement and huge debt.
Rags and Liverpool want to (at least) compete with us, but without significant owner investment. Their owners want to be able to take huge amounts out of the game for their pockets.
Real and Barca believe they have a divine right, not just to success, but to be able to outspend everyone in Europe with ease. Because of this very attitude, they are up to their eyes in debt.
Arsenal - sub-scale versions of Rags/Liverpool.
Spurs - bleeding to death with debt and desperate.
In short, a mixture of entitlement and huge debt.