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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%

  • Total voters
    2,063
It seems Perez is willing to clear Madrid debt with our money

This man is a billionaire, and major shareholder in Spain's biggest construction company.

Put your hand in your own pocket your vile demented old tart. It is partly from his own delusions that they are in such debt, paying Bale 600K a week because he was convinced he could become the next Ronaldo.
 
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Transfer fees have a net cost of zero to football clubs. For every fee paid, there is one received. Capping them serves only to cap the reward for developing players. If that is your intention then you have found a good solution, but if you want to make football more financially stable you’ve done nothing.

Wage caps have more merit, I guess there’s a long term risk that other leagues without the cap would sign the best players and eventually China, say, would be the global football powerhouse like Europe is today. Foden would sign for Beijing United and we’d be left with the 2030 equivalent of Joey Barton. Our leagues would become less of a global product and would lose the TV and sponsorship revenues that come from that. I’m not sure if that would outweigh the benefits of lower wages or not.

Then, there is the question of if these measures are even legal. It is effectively separate business acting as a cartel to drive down wages. A way round that is to set up a single league entity and have the clubs be mere franchises. This isn’t something that most would want, as it could result in your franchise being moved to a more desirable location a la Wimbledon.

Perhaps the best solution is to establish a commercially attractive European league for the biggest clubs, which would then provide large solidarity payments to the national associations to develop the game. They could call it the ‘European super league’...

China have brought in their own caps and the Communist party have told the clubs to stop the excess.


 
I’m only going off actions. The club chose to sign up to a scheme that goes against everything our club represents and it’s fans.
You’ve decided to lecture other posters, posters with legitimate concerns and worries

Needy individuals who are so self-important they feel that they deserve an apology for anything that they don't agree with. And even when they get one, they whine that it isn't enough. It's all very modern.
 
I still want a better apology from Soriano.

it’s not good enough we destroyed the entire thing from the inside my super true blue feelings were hurt >:(

And I demand an apology for the apology. City knew exactly what we were doing.

In fact, I demand more than an apology, I want to specify who that apology for the apology comes from and a full explanation. Heads must roll for this.
 
I'm all on board the conspiracy train :-)

What did Khaldoon say in his end of season video?

"The football world is small, we hear everything".

Did he also say something about sinister forces at work to undermine the Premier League?

I hope you're not suggesting that some posters on Bluemoon aren't smarter than our owners.
 
And I demand an apology for the apology. City knew exactly what we were doing.

In fact, I demand more than an apology, I want to specify who that apology for the apology comes from and a full explanation. Heads must roll for this.
Noggs! You've only gone and made things worse.

Delooney, Harris and the other WhatsApp group members will be looking for another angle to tarnish City and you've just handed it to them.

Angry City fans demand Sharia law style punishments for 'salt of the earth' fans demanding an apology for greedy Super League plot.
 
After Perez, I do not think this was a fuck-up. They knew what they were doing, even if part of it was out of almost no choice, and part of it would bring some serious reputational damage.

As the peices fall into place, the timing really works itself out. That's why this was so rushed.
 
Perez is off his nut




Boo fucking hoo

Bar this being a crock of shit, if the **** want's to make a profit well don't offer alaba a 5 year deal worth 400k a week or spunk 130M on hazard.

Live within your means and balance the books,

Real started half this shit with their galacticos stupidity decades ago, and rather than trying to monopolise all the money in football, start managing your own, if that means for all these 12 dicks you finsh 5th a few season and don't play in europe or win a trophy, well that's life.

La liga
Bunderliga
Seria A
Here (to an extent)

All would be much better leagues if teams were on an even keel and competiton returned.


Football at the top needs to reflect on this and FFP and other crazy ideas and say "we have got it wrong" we need to lessen the greed and put in place measures that keep teams financially viable and leagues interesting , whether it is salary caps, penalties for intentional debt creation, or whatever, letting these lot spend and spend then once it bites them on the arse have them try to smash and grab all the money has to stop football shouldn't suffer because of their own mismanagment (RM, rags, scouser, Barca)
 
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After Perez, I do not think this was a fuck-up. They knew what they were doing, even if part of it was out of almost no choice, and part of it would bring some serious reputational damage.

As the peices fall into place, the timing really works itself out. That's why this was so rushed.
I thought that at first, it was one of the first comments to come out of the interview, but if you then look at the ridiculousness of the rest of the interview, it’s far too selective to actually believe him about City. He sounded like a 10 year old.
 
You are on cloud cuckoo land if you think that those 12 clubs are equivalent. That ESL plot was openly discussed in the papers at the start of the season. This was the exclusive league that has been mooted a Man Utd and Liverpools attempt to cut City out in case they could not bend UEFA to their will. They messed up on both counts.

Real Madrid, Juve, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal drove this. City and Chelsea accepted invitations.

There will be no major punishments for Manchester City. We shot the damn thing down when it came to it, and only joined it on the very last day (simon stone, BBC). I don't know exactly what our thinking was. It may have been greed, it may have been subterfuge but it is not the equivalent of Man Utd. Why do you think investment banker Woodward is going, and why did he resign yesterday? His plot. His failure. His defeat.

I can see some minor sanction and censure for City but I'd quite welcome some investigation because our major rivals have much much more to lose than us.

AT worse we're greedy and incompetent because we signed up for something that was doomed. At best we're damned smart. What we aren't is calculating and devious and duplicitous. Ceferin's comments are very understandable

Well done though for arguing a point against a prevailing point of view.
I agree Marvin.
You put into a good post exactly my thoughts on the matter.
Obviously our enemies via the media will try to divide and conquer fans and owner via the apology topic but the result speaks for itself.
 
Perez is off his nut




Boo fucking hoo

Bar this being a crock of shit, if the **** want's to make a profit well don't offer alaba a 5 year deal worth 400k a week or spunk 130M on hazard.

Live within your means and balance the books,

Real started half this shit with their galacticos stupidity decades ago, and rather than trying to monopolise all the money in football, start managing your own, if that means for all these 12 dicks you finsh 5th a few season and don't play in europe or win a trophy, well that's life.

La liga
Bunderliga
Seria A
Here (to an extent)

All would be much better leagues if teams were on an even keel and competiton returned.


Football at the top needs to reflect on this and FFP and other crazy ideas and say "we have got it wrong" we need to lessen the greed and put in place measures that keep teams financially viable and leagues interesting , whether it is salary caps, penalties for intentional debt creation, or whatever, letting these lot spend and spend then once it bites them on the arse have them try to smash and grab all the money has to stop football shouldn't suffer because of their own mismanagment (RM, rags, scouser, Barca)

Debt needs to be a hindrance to clubs. If you’re in debt, you can’t spend!
 
I thought that at first, it was one of the first comments to come out of the interview, but if you then look at the ridiculousness of the rest of the interview, it’s far too selective to actually believe him about City. He sounded like a 10 year old.

Just because he is nuts, doesn't mean he is wrong on everything. Besides, that's really just the final bit, everything else suggests it. The timing of events most of all.
 
You are on cloud cuckoo land if you think that those 12 clubs are equivalent. That ESL plot was openly discussed in the papers at the start of the season. This was the exclusive league that has been mooted a Man Utd and Liverpools attempt to cut City out in case they could not bend UEFA to their will. They messed up on both counts.

Real Madrid, Juve, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal drove this. City and Chelsea accepted invitations.

There will be no major punishments for Manchester City. We shot the damn thing down when it came to it, and only joined it on the very last day (simon stone, BBC). I don't know exactly what our thinking was. It may have been greed, it may have been subterfuge but it is not the equivalent of Man Utd. Why do you think investment banker Woodward is going, and why did he resign yesterday? His plot. His failure. His defeat.

I can see some minor sanction and censure for City but I'd quite welcome some investigation because our major rivals have much much more to lose than us.

AT worse we're greedy and incompetent because we signed up for something that was doomed. At best we're damned smart. What we aren't is calculating and devious and duplicitous. Ceferin's comments are very understandable

Well done though for arguing a point against a prevailing point of view.

I think Woodward resigning was his exit strategy as to take the club to “ESL” & I’m sure his bonus would he linked to that.

Its possible hes achieved his target, the club has since decided to resign from ESL.
 
Perez is off his nut




Boo fucking hoo

Bar this being a crock of shit, if the **** want's to make a profit well don't offer alaba a 5 year deal worth 400k a week or spunk 130M on hazard.

Live within your means and balance the books,

Real started half this shit with their galacticos stupidity decades ago, and rather than trying to monopolise all the money in football, start managing your own, if that means for all these 12 dicks you finsh 5th a few season and don't play in europe or win a trophy, well that's life.

La liga
Bunderliga
Seria A
Here (to an extent)

All would be much better leagues if teams were on an even keel and competiton returned.


Football at the top needs to reflect on this and FFP and other crazy ideas and say "we have got it wrong" we need to lessen the greed and put in place measures that keep teams financially viable and leagues interesting , whether it is salary caps, penalties for intentional debt creation, or whatever, letting these lot spend and spend then once it bites them on the arse have them try to smash and grab all the money has to stop football shouldn't suffer because of their own mismanagment (RM, rags, scouser, Barca)

Smacks of the greedy bastard wanting his cake and eating it.
 
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