The Tottenham Thread 12/13

THFC6061 said:
I'm more than a little worried that Sunday's game coincides with the brouhaha surrounding Stoke City's 150th Anniversary celebrations.

You simply couldn't pick a worse day for Spurs to be facing them.
I wouldn't be too worried about that game if I were you; it's probably going to be irrelevant in the wider scheme of things now. Arsenal win their last two games and you'll be playing in the EL whatever you do in your last two games. For what it's worth, I think both you and Arsenal will win your last two games.
 
GHoddle said:
They were better first half, we were better 2nd half. Overall a fair result imo.

Though we did play with a second string midfield and they played their first choice 11, I'll just throw that out there. ;)

We've been unlucky against Chelsea this season that we've been missing a number of our best players each time we played them. They played more Europa league games than we did but haven't suffered the same injuries to their squad that we have had as a result, which is kind of annoying.

Spurs fans always have an excuse when they don't get a positive result.

Just to give some balance:
* Your equaliser was offside
* Chelsea looked absolutely shattered in the second half due to having to play * Basle twice and two league games within two weeks, not to mention the ridiculous amount of games they have played
* Chelsea are trying to rotate the squad as they are fighting on two fronts
* Torres is $hit

You keep mentioning injuries...We have all had them and missed players for various reasons, including ACON. For example, Aguero has rarely been free of injury and match fit, Richards has missed virtually the entire season and one of the RB back-ups, Maicon has been injured for most of the season. Not to mention Kompany being injured for three months. We have also missed Silva and Barry during key periods of the season. Yaya was missing for two months, although granted we knew that was going to happen.
 
Manc in London said:
GHoddle said:
They were better first half, we were better 2nd half. Overall a fair result imo.

Though we did play with a second string midfield and they played their first choice 11, I'll just throw that out there. ;)

We've been unlucky against Chelsea this season that we've been missing a number of our best players each time we played them. They played more Europa league games than we did but haven't suffered the same injuries to their squad that we have had as a result, which is kind of annoying.

Spurs fans always have an excuse when they don't get a positive result.

Just to give some balance:
* Your equaliser was offside
* Chelsea looked absolutely shattered in the second half due to having to play * Basle twice and two league games within two weeks, not to mention the ridiculous amount of games they have played
* Chelsea are trying to rotate the squad as they are fighting on two fronts
* Torres is $hit

You keep mentioning injuries...We have all had them and missed players for various reasons, including ACON. For example, Aguero has rarely been free of injury and match fit, Richards has missed virtually the entire season and one of the RB back-ups, Maicon has been injured for most of the season. Not to mention Kompany being injured for three months. We have also missed Silva and Barry during key periods of the season. Yaya was missing for two months, although granted we knew that was going to happen.

THIS
some uncharacterstic finishing from Mata (twice) and Ramries falling over kept you in the game and you came back to score a goal that should have been chalked off for off side. Chelsea were cutting through your mf/defense time and again.
 
Manc in London said:
GHoddle said:
They were better first half, we were better 2nd half. Overall a fair result imo.

Though we did play with a second string midfield and they played their first choice 11, I'll just throw that out there. ;)

We've been unlucky against Chelsea this season that we've been missing a number of our best players each time we played them. They played more Europa league games than we did but haven't suffered the same injuries to their squad that we have had as a result, which is kind of annoying.

Spurs fans always have an excuse when they don't get a positive result.

Just to give some balance:
* Your equaliser was offside
* Chelsea looked absolutely shattered in the second half due to having to play * Basle twice and two league games within two weeks, not to mention the ridiculous amount of games they have played
* Chelsea are trying to rotate the squad as they are fighting on two fronts
* Torres is $hit

You keep mentioning injuries...We have all had them and missed players for various reasons, including ACON. For example, Aguero has rarely been free of injury and match fit, Richards has missed virtually the entire season and one of the RB back-ups, Maicon has been injured for most of the season. Not to mention Kompany being injured for three months. We have also missed Silva and Barry during key periods of the season. Yaya was missing for two months, although granted we knew that was going to happen.

Imo it was a positive result.

"You keep mentioning injuries" - I mentioned them once in context of the game.

Missing Sandro and Dembele meant our midfield was a lot more porous than it should be which allowed Chelsea to create a lot of chances in the first half. We were better than them in the 2nd half and deserved the draw. Btw I think we have every right to an offside goal at Stamford Bridge considering what has happened there in the past for us.
 
I can't believe Ramires fell over at that exact moment. He really hurt himself so I don't blame him or anything, but that is what you call unlucky. Mata also missed 2 chances he usually scores and Benitez managed to give Spurs the incentive by taking two of our biggest threats off for no apparent reason and relinquishing midfield control. Spurs were very lucky to get a point, but it doesn't really hurt us. I've given up moaning about offsides, penalties and cards because I'd like to not die from blood pressure.

At least we showed how to contain Bale. But didn't account for Adebayor having his best game in about 3 years. They needed a win really but they could still make it. Counting on Arsenal to bottle something isn't ridiculous.
 
GHoddle said:
Manc in London said:
GHoddle said:
They were better first half, we were better 2nd half. Overall a fair result imo.

Though we did play with a second string midfield and they played their first choice 11, I'll just throw that out there. ;)

We've been unlucky against Chelsea this season that we've been missing a number of our best players each time we played them. They played more Europa league games than we did but haven't suffered the same injuries to their squad that we have had as a result, which is kind of annoying.

Spurs fans always have an excuse when they don't get a positive result.

Just to give some balance:
* Your equaliser was offside
* Chelsea looked absolutely shattered in the second half due to having to play * Basle twice and two league games within two weeks, not to mention the ridiculous amount of games they have played
* Chelsea are trying to rotate the squad as they are fighting on two fronts
* Torres is $hit

You keep mentioning injuries...We have all had them and missed players for various reasons, including ACON. For example, Aguero has rarely been free of injury and match fit, Richards has missed virtually the entire season and one of the RB back-ups, Maicon has been injured for most of the season. Not to mention Kompany being injured for three months. We have also missed Silva and Barry during key periods of the season. Yaya was missing for two months, although granted we knew that was going to happen.

Imo it was a positive result.

"You keep mentioning injuries" - I mentioned them once in context of the game.

Missing Sandro and Dembele meant our midfield was a lot more porous than it should be which allowed Chelsea to create a lot of chances in the first half. We were better than them in the 2nd half and deserved the draw. Btw I think we have every right to an offside goal at Stamford Bridge considering what has happened there in the past for us.

It was aimed at the large number of Spurs fans on internet forums who keep whining about bad luck with injuries.

As for past decisions at some grounds, you are by no means the only club to suffer poor decisions against the old SKY 4 clubs.<br /><br />-- Thu May 09, 2013 9:03 pm --<br /><br />
Castiel said:
I can't believe Ramires fell over at that exact moment. He really hurt himself so I don't blame him or anything, but that is what you call unlucky. Mata also missed 2 chances he usually scores and Benitez managed to give Spurs the incentive by taking two of our biggest threats off for no apparent reason and relinquishing midfield control. Spurs were very lucky to get a point, but it doesn't really hurt us. I've given up moaning about offsides, penalties and cards because I'd like to not die from blood pressure.

At least we showed how to contain Bale. But didn't account for Adebayor having his best game in about 3 years. They needed a win really but they could still make it. Counting on Arsenal to bottle something isn't ridiculous.

You cannot count the Ramires chance as 'unlucky'. If Ramires had checked his run slightly or if Mata had weighted the pass better then it may have created a very good chance.

Personally, I thought you may well have won if you hadn't tired so dramatically and had Benitez made better subs.
 
Manc in London said:
You cannot count the Ramires chance as 'unlucky'. If Ramires had checked his run slightly or if Mata had weighted the pass better then it may have created a very good chance.

Personally, I thought you may well have won if you hadn't tired so dramatically and had Benitez made better subs.
He just slipped as he was running onto the ball. Had he not slipped he'd have had an open shot anywhere he wanted on goal. Slipping under those circumstances is unlucky.
 
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

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Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.
 
THFC6061 said:
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

P0263_zps26088d91.png


Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.

Only reason Chelsea are above United, is due to the scum fielding a weakened team last time out. They'd already won the league so wasn't surprising.
 
THFC6061 said:
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

P0263_zps26088d91.png


Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.
Just shows that our season (and chelseas) has been spoiled by games against the teams we should have beaten, and that united won it on the back of their consistency against those we all should have beaten.

The team top of that mini league should really become champions, so it should be between us and chelsea, yet chelsea are 16 points adrift of the top of the league.
 
Castiel said:
He just slipped as he was running onto the ball. Had he not slipped he'd have had an open shot anywhere he wanted on goal. Slipping under those circumstances is unlucky.

It's hard to argue with that - but maybe if you hadn't watered that part of the pitch so much (theoretically for your own gain I guess) at half time it wouldn't have happened!
 
Slicker than Sommeil said:
THFC6061 said:
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

P0263_zps26088d91.png


Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.

Only reason Chelsea are above United, is due to the scum fielding a weakened team last time out. They'd already won the league so wasn't surprising.

Not really. Chelsea had the measure of ManU in almost all the games they played this season. In their first PL game, Clattenburg happened, then Chelsea won the Carling Cup game, drew the away game vs ManU in fa cup (which they should have won and were on top for most periods) and then won the reverse fixture of fa cup game as well.
 
THFC6061 said:
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

P0263_zps26088d91.png


Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.

That is impressive as we used to struggle against the top clubs. Getting 4pts from United was great
 
please get top 4 and shout those arsenal cunts up!<br /><br />-- Fri May 10, 2013 2:35 pm --<br /><br />please get top 4 and shout those arsenal cunts up!
 
SPURS TEAM NEWS FOR STOKE:

Andre Villas-Boas is positive that Mousa Dembele will be ready to face Stoke on Sunday.

The midfielder missed Wednesday night's clash at Chelsea after injury forced him out of the action after 36 minutes against Southampton at the Lane last Saturday.

"Mousa will train tomorrow with the team and we expect him to come back fully fit and be ready for selection," said Andre after training on Friday.

William Gallas, Younes Kaboul and Sandro remain sidelined.
 
THFC6061 said:
SPURS TEAM NEWS FOR STOKE:

Andre Villas-Boas is positive that Mousa Dembele will be ready to face Stoke on Sunday.

The midfielder missed Wednesday night's clash at Chelsea after injury forced him out of the action after 36 minutes against Southampton at the Lane last Saturday.

"Mousa will train tomorrow with the team and we expect him to come back fully fit and be ready for selection," said Andre after training on Friday.

William Gallas, Younes Kaboul and Sandro remain sidelined.


Haha i do admire you THFC for preaching your spurs'ness of a city forum ;)

Take a lot of crap too haha for what it's worth i hope you make the top 4 ahead of arsenal
 
Chairman Wesker said:
THFC6061 said:
SPURS TEAM NEWS FOR STOKE:

Andre Villas-Boas is positive that Mousa Dembele will be ready to face Stoke on Sunday.

The midfielder missed Wednesday night's clash at Chelsea after injury forced him out of the action after 36 minutes against Southampton at the Lane last Saturday.

"Mousa will train tomorrow with the team and we expect him to come back fully fit and be ready for selection," said Andre after training on Friday.

William Gallas, Younes Kaboul and Sandro remain sidelined.


Haha i do admire you THFC for preaching your spurs'ness of a city forum ;)

Take a lot of crap too haha for what it's worth i hope you make the top 4 ahead of arsenal
This-and please keep Arse out. They need a slap
 
SingBlueSilva said:
Chairman Wesker said:
THFC6061 said:
SPURS TEAM NEWS FOR STOKE:

Andre Villas-Boas is positive that Mousa Dembele will be ready to face Stoke on Sunday.

The midfielder missed Wednesday night's clash at Chelsea after injury forced him out of the action after 36 minutes against Southampton at the Lane last Saturday.

"Mousa will train tomorrow with the team and we expect him to come back fully fit and be ready for selection," said Andre after training on Friday.

William Gallas, Younes Kaboul and Sandro remain sidelined.


Haha i do admire you THFC for preaching your spurs'ness of a city forum ;)

Take a lot of crap too haha for what it's worth i hope you make the top 4 ahead of arsenal
This-and please keep Arse out. They need a slap

Yes, they're long overdue a good hiding but every year they still manage to come out on top one way or another.

All Spurs can do is to try and get those six remaining points and hope that either Wigan or Newcastle can do us a huge favour.
 
THFC6061 said:
Interesting mini-Table featuring games between the Top Five Premier League teams this season...

P0263_zps26088d91.png


Spurs averaged two goals per game in these matches (all 16 came from out of the blue?).

Shame our defence was such crap though.

Oh... and Arsenal are officially Big Game Bottlers.

Last season we would have had only 5 points in this table as well haha. Our improvement in these games has been impressive. 9 our conceded goals came in 2 games against Arsenal and Chelsea, the Arsenal game because Adebayor was red carded and the Chelsea game we were really ravaged by injuries. We haven't lost any of these games when Dembele started, interestingly. The 4 games he has started we got 3 wins and 1 draw.
 

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