The worst thing about farcical officiating

blue moony said:
Its not just city , other teams seem to get very suspect decisons

Love city but im done with it ....

Cancelled sky and bt after that today ... will check the scores but wont watch anymore

Sad sad day

Ctid
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I'v never had them nor never will
even if i could afford them,which I can't
fuck the armchairs.

I'd rather it go back to how it was in the 1970's when I a kid and teams like Forest and Derby could win the league
 
jamielowndes said:
Did I say they would?

My point is that there is no financial reason for there to be a fix against us and it isn't detrimental to PL viewership if we win the league.
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There is very much a financial (and viewership) reason for us not to win the league — PL executives have come out and said it many times.

There is more viewership and revenue after one of the cash cow clubs win the league, and less revenue the longer non-cash cow clubs dominate (loss of sponsorship/advertising revenues, fan or casual follower engagement, merchandising revenues, etc).

We simply do not bring in the same overall revenues for the league (short-term and mid-term) by winning back-to-back-to-back titles.

Now, we may eventually become a cash cow club, but we aren’t there yet, and the league are now getting very nervous with the likes of Liverpool and United ownerships looking to sell and the ESL situation (which hasn’t actually gone away).
 
Worst thing about today.

It's finally killed off my love of football.
Turned it off when they allowed the offside goal.
Not looked at any scores since.
Will use my ticket for most of the last games only cos I've already paid for it.
Won't be renewing and won't be watching any football after this season.
I've really have had enough of it
 
SebastianBlue said:
There is very much a financial (and viewership) reason for us not to win the league — PL executives have come out and said it many times.

There is more viewership and revenue after one of the cash cow clubs win the league, and less revenue the longer non-cash cow clubs dominate (loss of sponsorship/advertising revenues, fan or casual follower engagement, merchandising revenues, etc).

We simply do not bring in the same overall revenues for the league (short-term and mid-term) by winning back-to-back-to-back titles.

Now, we may eventually become a cash cow club, but we aren’t there yet, and the league are now getting very nervous with the likes of Liverpool and United ownerships looking to sell and the ESL situation (which hasn’t actually gone away).
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The Premier League revenue has never been higher and never gone up at as high a percentage as in our period of dominance.

We are the biggest cash cow the Premier League has ever had.

The Premier League is the biggest league in the world by a mile now because of us and the way we have won the league in the most exciting seasons in English league and probably any other league history.

Teams in the bottom half regularly buy players from teams in the Champions League because of the Premier League rights being sold for record after record while we dominate English football and create exciting league title run-ins in the manner we do. That rarely happened in United’s era of dominance and even more rarely in Liverpool’s.
 
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can we clarify if the decisio was ‘right’ or wrong based on the laws.

i’ve heard different things throughout the day
 
blue moony said:
Its not just city , other teams seem to get very suspect decisons

Love city but im done with it ....

Cancelled sky and bt after that today ... will check the scores but wont watch anymore

Sad sad day

Ctid
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Feel exactly the same bud. It’s only habit and nostalgia keeping me watching. I’m finding myself not watching some games now. Still enjoy going the games but I don’t think I’ll watch much on tv anymore. It’s just a load of all bollox now
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
The Premier League revenue has never been higher and never gone up at as high a percentage as in our period of dominance.

We are the biggest cash cow the Premier League has ever had.

The Premier League is the biggest league in the world by a mile now because of us and the way we have won the league in the most exciting seasons in English league and probably any other league history.

Teams in the bottom half regularly buy players from teams in the Champions League because of the Premier League rights being sold while we dominate English football. That rarely happened in United’s era of dominance and even more rarely in Liverpool’s.
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You are correct that the league has benefited from us becoming a major player. I have talked about that at length for some time.

But I was referring to to overall revenue across the league, including at individual clubs. And was also referring to revenue projections and league plans, which also reflect my stance.

I am not sure how one can argue that the league wants us to continually win the league every season and that they believe they benefit from it? Their own statements and disclosures say otherwise.

Nor do I think one can argue that the growth we have seen since we first won the league is entirely down to our dominance (and thus directly compare it to periods of United and Liverpool dominance prior to what could be considered the modern iteration of the PL). There are so many outside factors that contributed to the PL becoming the most watched league in the world, none less than English being a dominate language across football markets.

In fact, there are some that would argue that the league would have made even more money if we had become a major player but had *not* dominated as we have these last five or so years. Many of them are among the PL leadership.

And we are by no means the league’s biggest cash cow. Where have you seen figures stating that?
 
SebastianBlue said:
Am I completely by myself here?
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No you're not.

Honestly - after 50 plus years as a match-going supporter and ST holder, I think I'm done.

I will follow City via BM and from a distance but I will no longer put my cash into a game which, as a sporting contest, is being blatantly manipulated in favour of specific clubs in the interest of revenue, profit and product.

Being emotionally invested in City does not mean I'm willing to be treated by the sport as a brainless moron.
 
M Gaudino said:
can we clarify if the decisio was ‘right’ or wrong based on the laws.

i’ve heard different things throughout the day
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In my interpretation of the Laws of the Game, Ederson is affected by Rashford in this part of the Offside Law:

‘a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball’

Ederson holds his run out because he sees Rashford running towards the ball and has been impacted in his ability to come out and clear the ball. So Rashford has interfered with play.

That’s how I see it and anyone who sees me post on here a lot will know I’m very neutral when it comes to referee decisions and I don’t think everyone is out to get City. I dead-eye it in terms of the Laws all the time.
 
jamielowndes said:
Did I say they would?

My point is that there is no financial reason for there to be a fix against us and it isn't detrimental to PL viewership if we win the league.
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It's not us.

Scudamore on the Rag's:

“It’s a double-edged sword. When your most popular club isn’t doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places. There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again,”
 
If that had been given at Goodison against Everton today such is the toxic nature there right now I'm pretty sure it would have prompted violence. Terrible decision.
 
M Gaudino said:
can we clarify if the decisio was ‘right’ or wrong based on the laws.

i’ve heard different things throughout the day
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It depends entirely on how one interprets “interfering with play”.

Hundreds of other referees with hundreds of other previous incidents have interpreted a player running toward a ball (or, in this case, running 20 yards over the ball) from an offside position to be “interfering with play”, including on several occasions in other matches today.

But apparently this particular referee interpreted it differently in our match.
 
Football is as bent as boxing

Just like the A-side always gets the dodgy decision on their own promoters card, NEVER the opponent, now we see it in football all the time now, certain teams are always getting these decisions.

If any team scores that goal today, not United, it gets ruled out. Same as the Salah goal the other week, that also never gets given at the other end of the pitch.

All VAR has done has made the bent officials more obvious and they still couldn’t give a shit because they’re never held accountable.

Boxing was always my favourite sport and I grew up boxing and have fallen out of love with it because it’s just completely bent , and sadly I’m starting to feel a similar way about football. It’s just become a farce now. Even reflecting on the World Cup, nobody can convince me that Argentina were not helped by the officials. They had a soft penalty in nearly every game and wasn’t even checked by VAR usually. FIFA wanted Messi to win the World Cup and Argentina got plenty of help on the way to the final. Obviously they still have to do a large part themselves but if you can get an extra 10% help from the officials, that can be enough to push you over line and knock an opponents in-game confidence.

The game has gone to shit and that’s not because we lost today. I can take losing fair and square, like the Southampton game. It’s just blatantly obvious on days like today that officials are part of some agenda.
 
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