The worst thing about farcical officiating

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Since when has any media spotlight and scrutiny ever made a blind bit of difference?

They do what they want, and NOTHING happens. Any club that sticks their heads above the parapet gets lumped with a fine. 'Speak out and suffer the consequences' - That's organised crime tactics.
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Christ! I think you've gone too far down the rabbit hole mate. Scary if true, but I just can't see it.
 
hammocity said:
Just a yard? I’m going for at least 3 pal.

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Funniest thing is hearing United fans saying Akanji was doing his maximum and still couldn't get to Fernandes.

If Rashford isn't there, Akanji just locates Fernandes and plays his position against him.

It's quite obviously the worst decision I've seen in football and that's including Anthony Taylors horror show v Chelsea at home a few years ago.
 
Looby blue said:
See that's the problem though, you think the officiating is bent against our club. Do you honestly believe that Premier league refs are told to treat us differently? If so who tells them? How has this agenda ainst us from PGMOL been allowed to fester and flourish without a single journo or ex ref blowing the whistle (pardon the pun).

If you pay a visit to Rawk you'll see they believe that we have the refs and the media in our pocket as we, in their eyes, get all the dodgy decisions going for us and the media are up our arses. Listen to talksport for example and you'll see that fans of probably most premier league clubs think there is some form of media agenda against their club.

We're not the only ones who think we're getting shafted, everyone's suffering from crap refs, we just think we're special for some reason.
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This post is naive in the extreme. We all know that FIFA corruptly gave Russia and Qatar a World Cup. UEFA fixed a Barcelona v PSG second leg in 2017, you just have to watch that second leg to see that. Senior figures in UEFA such as Beckenbauer have publicly asked the wider football community to support “traditional“ Italian clubs like the two Milan clubs when they were skint and performing poorly. Juventus is one of the most bent clubs in Europe after Barcelona and Real Madrid. Then you have The Premier League. Previous incumbent Richard Scudamore talked about the product abroad being damaged by new money, (Chelsea and us). TalkShite feel fit to have a job titled European Football Politics Expert. This industry is worth Billions. Referee’s sign an NDA when they become PGMOL members.

If you don’t want to believe the evidence of your own eyes that’s fine. It’s not like yesterday was an isolated incident. It’s just the straw that broke the camel’s back for a few of us I suspect.
 
snorky said:
Just saw Keith Hackett's 'Rashford was clearly offside' article in the Telegraph. (Fuck off before you start Snork senior gets it)
At least one ex ref knows what he is yapping about!
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And is prepared to be open and honest because he isn't part of the PIGMOL clan who have to observe the edicts from higher powers .
 
Looby blue said:
Christ! I think you've gone too far down the rabbit hole mate. Scary if true, but I just can't see it.
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Look at corruption scandals in other football leagues/sports... The cricket one in particular is eye opening.



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MCFC1993 said:
Funniest thing is hearing United fans saying Akanji was doing his maximum and still couldn't get to Fernandes.

If Rashford isn't there, Akanji just locates Fernandes and plays his position against him.

It's quite obviously the worst decision I've seen in football and that's including Anthony Taylors horror show v Chelsea at home a few years ago.
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Strong.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
This opens up a HUGE can of worms.

I obviously believe there is corruption in the way results are manipulated, but for clubs to be in on the fix takes it to a whole new level.
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Never heard of Calciopoli?

From wiki. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli

"It was a sports scandal in Italy's top professional association football league Serie A and to a lesser extent Serie B. Involving various clubs and numerous executives, both from the same clubs and from the main Italian football bodies (AIA, FIGC, and LNP), as well as some referees and referee assistants, the scandal was uncovered in May 2006, when a number of telephone tappings showed relations between clubs' executives and referee organizations during the football seasons of 2004–05 and 2005–06, being accused of selecting favourable referees."
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
And is prepared to be open and honest because he isn't part of the PIGMOL clan who have to observe the edicts from higher powers .
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When Halsey claimed he'd been made to change his match report the PL/PGMOL lawyers were all over him like a tramp on chips in a Piccadilly Gardens bin. Halsey has gone VERY quiet recently.
 
Hank said:
Never heard of Calciopoli?

From wiki. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli

"It was a sports scandal in Italy's top professional association football league Serie A and to a lesser extent Serie B. Involving various clubs and numerous executives, both from the same clubs and from the main Italian football bodies (AIA, FIGC, and LNP), as well as some referees and referee assistants, the scandal was uncovered in May 2006, when a number of telephone tappings showed relations between clubs' executives and referee organizations during the football seasons of 2004–05 and 2005–06, being accused of selecting favourable referees."
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Yup. The netflix series 'Bad Sports' is WELL worth a watch.

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What gets to me the most is it's not subtle anymore, I thought the call against Wolves was the most blatant bad call of the season until yesterday. I can live with VAR missing a 50/50 penalty call, or calling a close offside one way to the other I'm used to that after years and years of watching the game. What I'm not used to us refs blatantly influencing results like they did yesterday and the Wolves/Scousers game.

Now we have PGMOL justifying blatantly bad decisions and referees nearly every other game. It's a disgrace and something needs to be done about it. I don't expect it to though that requires the refs, the FA and co admitting they've made mistakes. Plus the commentary of the game just ignored it and barely covered it, so they're in on it as well it felt like anyway.

I've always enjoyed our success cause deep down I've known it's against the authorities wishes.....just yesterday it was that blatant I still can't believe it happened and am still furious about it. I can live with losing fair and square but not like that.
 
VAR should be a good thing but it can only be as good as those using it and there is the problem. What happened yesterday needs an enquiry, its beyond any reason that the goal should of been allowed. If that was the other way around Sky and the rest of the media would make a huge issue about it. City really need to push this as the bias is so blatent they are taking the utter piss.
 
The rule was applied correctly.
The problem is the rule is stupid and not specific enough.
The not interfering part should refer to a player stood near the corner flag or when they do that thing and put their hands up to show they aren't going for the ball.

The rule will be changed next season because of the goal yesterday.
 
Normally an off side player is normally involved in a split second. Like a shot comes in and a player moves out of the way or be blocking the keepers view.

Yesterday Rashford ran about 30 yds with the ball basically under his control ( its Rashford game to chase the ball and hit it ). Looked like he was going to shot ( like normal )

All City players are being drawn towards Rashford. Rashford doesnt shot because he got a shout.
 
The goal was clearly offside because Rashford interfered with play by following the ball to the last second, in effect shielding the ball. This caused uncertainty in the City defence. It's as simple as that. How a professional referee cannot come to that conclusion with all the external help at hand defies belief. Only in this country with our clown joker referee's is that allowed to stand. CL and its offside everyday of the week.
 
117 M34 said:
The rule was applied correctly.
The problem is the rule is stupid and not specific enough.
The not interfering part should refer to a player stood near the corner flag or when they do that thing and put their hands up to show they aren't going for the ball.

The rule will be changed next season because of the goal yesterday.
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How was the rule applied correctly?If Rashford was not interfering in play it was a simple pass back to Ederson, by simply being where he was Rashford was interfering with play. This is due to some ref trying to be smart and expecting praise for a great decision when all he has done is make himself and the rules look idiotic.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It's not us.

Scudamore on the Rag's:

“It’s a double-edged sword. When your most popular club isn’t doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places. There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again,”
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There are more fans around the world who are happy for the scum to never win anything ever again too!
 
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