Theo Walcott? ..

I'm hearing Afellay to Bin Dippers (on loan from Barca). We appear to have a free run at TW then. He's not going to be a starter wherever he goes, unless its out of the top 6, but he would prefer 20 games a season and a pot than bench warming for nothing. So a bid for him given his contract impasse makes sense. £12.5m. Definitely an impact player and certainly a plan B option.
 
If I was to choose between Sinclair and Walcott, Walcott would be chosen every time.

Look at it this way.

- Champions League experience which Sinclair has not got.
- Can offer a good load of assists.
- One of the fastest players in Europe.


Wenger may be the manager to put his arms around his players but I believe with Mancini's hard discipline - Walcott could really flourish under him and he has the potential to become a regular for City, something I cannot see in Sinclair.
 
Sturridge might cost about the same, about £15million + 15% discount (sell-on clause)... though Chelsea would probably charge us extra taking that into account. Who would people prefer, Walcott or Danny boy?
 
FanchesterCity said:
Johnson wasn't warming the bench for nothing...

He was there because he was given opportunities and didn't take them fully.

Any player who comes to City gets opportunity... if they shine, they get picked regularly, if not, they get dropped.

If Rodwell shines, brilliant.
If Walcott / Sinclair shines, brilliant.

If not - they leave to try and shine at a lesser time.

Welcome to football.

New arrivals need playing time to settle in, adjust and get used to a new club / environment. You can't expect them to play well from day one - look at Nasri for example - unless you buy Messi. How do they get chance to find their best form if they get dropped after 3 so-so games ? If we buy players they need to be given time by those who have bought them not left in the reserves and then sold off at 50% loss after 12 months.
 
People seem to be confused.

Folks are assuming that the lack of a signing = Marwood not doing his job.

Why can't folks get their minds around the possibility that the lack of signing is Marwood actually DOING his job, and cutting the talks when the budget is broken.

It's perfectly feasibly the owner has said "Brian - YOUR job is to be the rational negotiator. Roberto will identify the targets, and you'll both set out the constraints prior to entering negotiations (and run them by me). Your job is to pull the plug when those limits are broken, as Roberto is more emotional and likely to get drawn into paying more".

If I was running the club... I'd be saying that to Marwood. If we're just going to pay the asking price at any cost, there's no point in having Marwood or anybody else in that position - might as well just post a blank cheque to the clubs owning the players we want, and let them determine the price.
 
LoveCity said:
Sturridge might cost about the same, about £15million + 15% discount (sell-on clause)... though Chelsea would probably charge us extra taking that into account. Who would people prefer, Walcott or Danny boy?
Walcott. We have goals and Sturridge wants to play up front rather than out wide. Would CFC sell Sturridge? That would leave them with 1 forward. I wouldn't want to help finance a CFC move for another top striker
 
Walcott is frustrating Bob, but he's become quite productive in the last two seasons. He fed van Persie a lot of goals.

2009/2010: 13 goals, 12 assists
2010/2011: 9 goals, 11 assists
 
FanchesterCity said:
People seem to be confused.

Folks are assuming that the lack of a signing = Marwood not doing his job.

Why can't folks get their minds around the possibility that the lack of signing is Marwood actually DOING his job, and cutting the talks when the budget is broken.

It's perfectly feasibly the owner has said "Brian - YOUR job is to be the rational negotiator. Roberto will identify the targets, and you'll both set out the constraints prior to entering negotiations (and run them by me). Your job is to pull the plug when those limits are broken, as Roberto is more emotional and likely to get drawn into paying more".

If I was running the club... I'd be saying that to Marwood. If we're just going to pay the asking price at any cost, there's no point in having Marwood or anybody else in that position - might as well just post a blank cheque to the clubs owning the players we want, and let them determine the price.

Eureka!
 
MCFC BOB said:
LoveCity said:
Walcott is frustrating Bob, but he's become quite productive in the last two seasons. He fed van Persie a lot of goals.

2009/2010: 13 goals, 12 assists
2010/2011: 9 goals, 11 assists
I think he's one of the most over-rated players to appear in football. Jesus, this would really do it for me over Marwood.

Hang on - are you now suggesting Marwood's actually determining the targets too?

This thread is going from the sublime to the ridiculous...

Firstly Marwood can't get Mancini's targets, then he's attempting to identify his own and failing to get them too... all under the noses of the chairman and ultimately owner?

Last summer Garry Cook was deemed 'the moron'. And this summer it seems like it's Marwood's turn.

We've just won the league under the stewardship of the owner and chairman, who's trusted key people to do their jobs... Marwood is one of them, Mancini's another. I see no reason to lose faith in any of them.
 
munster said:
FanchesterCity said:
People seem to be confused.

Folks are assuming that the lack of a signing = Marwood not doing his job.

Why can't folks get their minds around the possibility that the lack of signing is Marwood actually DOING his job, and cutting the talks when the budget is broken.

It's perfectly feasibly the owner has said "Brian - YOUR job is to be the rational negotiator. Roberto will identify the targets, and you'll both set out the constraints prior to entering negotiations (and run them by me). Your job is to pull the plug when those limits are broken, as Roberto is more emotional and likely to get drawn into paying more".

If I was running the club... I'd be saying that to Marwood. If we're just going to pay the asking price at any cost, there's no point in having Marwood or anybody else in that position - might as well just post a blank cheque to the clubs owning the players we want, and let them determine the price.

Eureka!

Please can all the chimps repeatedly read this until they understand,it may take you some time......
 
FantasyIreland said:
munster said:
FanchesterCity said:
People seem to be confused.

Folks are assuming that the lack of a signing = Marwood not doing his job.

Why can't folks get their minds around the possibility that the lack of signing is Marwood actually DOING his job, and cutting the talks when the budget is broken.

It's perfectly feasibly the owner has said "Brian - YOUR job is to be the rational negotiator. Roberto will identify the targets, and you'll both set out the constraints prior to entering negotiations (and run them by me). Your job is to pull the plug when those limits are broken, as Roberto is more emotional and likely to get drawn into paying more".

If I was running the club... I'd be saying that to Marwood. If we're just going to pay the asking price at any cost, there's no point in having Marwood or anybody else in that position - might as well just post a blank cheque to the clubs owning the players we want, and let them determine the price.

Eureka!

Please can all the chimps repeatedly read this until they understand,it may take you some time......

So not signing any of the manager's targets means Marwood is doing a good job? Can I have that job please.
 
munster said:
FanchesterCity said:
People seem to be confused.

Folks are assuming that the lack of a signing = Marwood not doing his job.

Why can't folks get their minds around the possibility that the lack of signing is Marwood actually DOING his job, and cutting the talks when the budget is broken.

It's perfectly feasibly the owner has said "Brian - YOUR job is to be the rational negotiator. Roberto will identify the targets, and you'll both set out the constraints prior to entering negotiations (and run them by me). Your job is to pull the plug when those limits are broken, as Roberto is more emotional and likely to get drawn into paying more".

If I was running the club... I'd be saying that to Marwood. If we're just going to pay the asking price at any cost, there's no point in having Marwood or anybody else in that position - might as well just post a blank cheque to the clubs owning the players we want, and let them determine the price.

Eureka!


I'm sure this is the case, however if your the 'rational negotiator' and all your negotiations come to nothing then you have failed.
He hasn't negotiated the price down, he's walked away and said 'too expensive'. That is a failure.

A successful negotiation would envolve either the price being reduced or staged payments based on the success of a player and ultimately a signature!!

We can all just walk away muttering 'too expensive' but that dosnt mean were doing a good job!
 
FanchesterCity said:
MCFC BOB said:
LoveCity said:
Walcott is frustrating Bob, but he's become quite productive in the last two seasons. He fed van Persie a lot of goals.

2009/2010: 13 goals, 12 assists
2010/2011: 9 goals, 11 assists
I think he's one of the most over-rated players to appear in football. Jesus, this would really do it for me over Marwood.

Hang on - are you now suggesting Marwood's actually determining the targets too?
No, I'm not, I'm suggesting he didn't do his job in the first place by not getting Sinclair. You can't tell me Walcott will cost less than Sinclair because that's ridiculous.
 
Walcott would be a good signing. I understand people having reservations over his ability, but his pace is something we are crying out for, he would really stretch games for us, and would be huge outlet for us.
I'd be happy with this.
 

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