These LGBT school protests

Ban-jani said:
What are people afraid of when it comes to their kids learning about LGBT people?
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Afraid of? Upsetting their religious beliefs.

Apparently it's not homophobic to say being gay is wrong in the eyes of a God so therefore all these lessons are abhorrent. The work of the devil.

All religions can fuck off. Spouting your hate and bile against anything that contravenes what some lying twats scribbled down hundreds of years ago as a means of controlling the masses.

It's all a bit weird considering everything was fair game back in those days, women, men, goats, small boys...

If it had a hole it was fucked. Literally.

And now homosexuality is wrong and I'm going to send death threats to anyone teaching about it.

Quite what the Police/ race relations are doing is beyond me because they would be all over this if it was the other way around.

"We will only teach about Mohammed and how gays etc etc are evil and not natural."

"Hold on, that's not right, I'm going to picket and complain."

"Racist. Officer. Lock him up."

Look at the couple who wouldn't bake a gay cake. Hounded by press, media, social media.

"We live in a tolerant society. If they want a gay cake you will bake them a gay cake or you go to jail."

This lot? Nothing.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
more than welcome to have it discussed when kids are at a certain age.

but the age they are suggesting from, No chance.
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What exactly would you ban them discussing until a certain age though? The very existence of same-sex couples? A story book that happens to have a family with two mums or two dads? I don't think the teachers are going into the classroom in assless chaps and teaching kids how to use Grinder.

See this is where it falls down, because teaching materials teach kids about family and relationships all the time, so the only way you can oppose moves to include gay parents in this without being homophobic is to say that children should be taught absolutely nothing about family and relationships, and ban any teaching materials that suggest relationships between adults because kids are "not mature enough" to deal with such things. Funnily enough adults who think that kids aren't mature enough to deal with such things often think that they are perfectly capable of comprehending theological and metaphysical concepts such an omnipotent creator who watches everything you do, and have absolutely no problem indoctrinating kids into that. Because of course the idea that the kids aren't mature enough for certain concepts has always been a cover for adults' own uncomfortableness(?) with the concept.

And make no mistake, the only reason that these homophobes are getting any sympathy whatsoever is because they're hiding behind religion to make their points, and a minority religion at that. In principle, they are absolutely no different from a white supremacist group protesting that their kids were reading a story book in school that included a mixed race couple. Except no-one has any trouble calling that out, because white supremacy isn't explicitly based on religion. The exact quote from Amir Ahmed was that he had a problem that books that included two mums or two dads "teach children that same-sex relationships are morally right" which of course is only a problem if you're a homophobe, by definition.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
What exactly would you ban them discussing until a certain age though? The very existence of same-sex couples? A story book that happens to have a family with two mums or two dads? I don't think the teachers are going into the classroom in assless chaps and teaching kids how to use Grinder.

See this is where it falls down, because teaching materials teach kids about family and relationships all the time, so the only way you can oppose moves to include gay parents in this without being homophobic is to say that children should be taught absolutely nothing about family and relationships, and ban any teaching materials that suggest relationships between adults because kids are "not mature enough" to deal with such things. Funnily enough adults who think that kids aren't mature enough to deal with such things often think that they are perfectly capable of comprehending theological and metaphysical concepts such an omnipotent creator who watches everything you do, and have absolutely no problem indoctrinating kids into that. Because of course the idea that the kids aren't mature enough for certain concepts has always been a cover for adults' own uncomfortableness(?) with the concept.

And make no mistake, the only reason that these homophobes are getting any sympathy whatsoever is because they're hiding behind religion to make their points, and a minority religion at that. In principle, they are absolutely no different from a white supremacist group protesting that their kids were reading a story book in school that included a mixed race couple. Except no-one has any trouble calling that out, because white supremacy isn't explicitly based on religion. The exact quote from Amir Ahmed was that he had a problem that books that included two mums or two dads "teach children that same-sex relationships are morally right" which of course is only a problem if you're a homophobe, by definition.
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I don't think sex education should be taught to children at all until minimum Year 6 and above.

Whether that's same sex couples, etc etc.

Certainly not homophobic if that's what you are suggesting
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I don't think sex education should be taught to children at all until minimum Year 6 and above.

Whether that's same sex couples, etc etc.

Certainly not homophobic if that's what you are suggesting
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Never said you were (that campaigner who appeared in the BBC undoubtedly is though), but we're not talking about sex education, we're talking about whether it's right to teach children that different types of family exist. In principle, it's no different from teaching children that single parent families exist. So what exactly are they teaching that you are uncomfortable with? What are you imagining when you say 'sex education?'

On a slightly different note, if you watch Hey Duggee on CBeebies, you'll notice that one of the kids is adopted.

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Little things like that make a difference. Including characters with disabilities is another example so that kids know about these things.
 
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