This transfer window/Marwood

[SWP's back]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

Just read the thread and surprised no one picked up on this? Can you elaborate a bit more bud?

He was briefed by City that Hughes was safe a week before his sack. The rest of fleet street were saying he was gone (remember tales of managers being sounded out) and Winter ran a big piece on the fact he was staying and defending our board. We then sacked him A few days later and very much made Winter look a tit so he gave us both barrels in the press conference, as I would have done if I was a journalist that had just been made to look a twat.

Cheers mate.

I thought he was a **** for doing it at the time, don't get me wrong. But if I was in his posiiton and covering, let's say Liverpool and had been led down the garden path to serve their purpose for a week, I think I would have done the exact same thing.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

He was briefed by City that Hughes was safe a week before his sack. The rest of fleet street were saying he was gone (remember tales of managers being sounded out) and Winter ran a big piece on the fact he was staying and defending our board. We then sacked him A few days later and very much made Winter look a tit so he gave us both barrels in the press conference, as I would have done if I was a journalist that had just been made to look a twat.

Cheers mate.

I thought he was a **** for doing it at the time, don't get me wrong. But if I was in his posiiton and covering, let's say Liverpool and had been led down the garden path to serve their purpose for a week, I think I would have done the exact same thing.

It's good to get an understanding of why things happen. I'm not happy he did what he did that day but can now see a reason for his actions.

 

[supercrystal7]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

No, it suggests that the strategy of the club was to spend big to get as to a stage where we could compete at the top, and then go about building a more sustainable setup. This was publicly stated from before Marwood even joined the club.

Of course this is what every club in a similar position tries to do. The problem is that once you are at the top you need to really cement your place there. Blackburn are an example of what can happen if you don't. This is the year to complete the squad, then you can fall back to a more sustainable model for the next 8 or so years. Before perhaps needing another decent cash injection to build a new team once more.

You don't know what Marwoods thoughts are, you are guessing.

I have read his comments and read Mancini's. It gives a good indication.

It seems to me that you are comparing apples to oranges.

No it is a scarily similar situation, but Chelsea were even more established at the top, had a stronger squad and sustained success in the CL. Chelsea needed only one top signing. You need three. In 06/07 Chelsea lost the league, because their defence could not cope with fixture congestions. Games against Liverpool with Essien at the back screwed them over.

Seriously how do you think you will do without Kompany, Toure or even Silva for a a couple of months? Things will be much worse this season, because you are now seeded higher in the CL and cannot possibly get as unlucky as last years draw. Most likely will get much further in the FA cup too.

 

[moomba]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

There are only so many hours in a day. The man is not Batman, there is only so much he can do. Of course your spending strategy has to stop at some point, but only when you have a top class complete squad.

We have a top class squad. And it will get better.

Nasri, Milner, Robinho and now this transfer window. Signing a player late is not always a bad thing. This is where understanding football is important. If you are signing a promising youngster you are looking to bleed into the squad then it does not matter too much. When you are signing a player to go straight into your first team then it matters a lot more.

You can cut the patronising "understand football" bullshit for a start. You were saying that Marwood consistently signs people late in the transfer window, you've come up with three names, two of which were signed while Garry Cook was in charge and one signed before Marwood even joined the club.

The FA Cup was unfortunate, but having a fully embedded Nasri in the CL would have helped things.

Having a player that joined a week or two earlier would have made no difference at all.

Paying a couple of million over the odds for Nasri was worth the compromise in getting him early. Last year you were remarkably lucky with injuries. I have already linked an article where your fitness coach implies Mancini was forced to play Silva and Toure, though they were no as fit as he would have liked. A fully fit and bedded Nasri takes a bit of the burden from Silva leaving him fresher at the end.

Remarkably lucky with injuries eh? Kompany, Lescott, Richards, Silva, Nasri, Milner, Balotelli, Aguero all missed games through injury. Tevez was Tevez, Yaya and Kolo missed a month of the season through ACN. Nasri coming into the club a week or two earlier would have made no difference to Silva who had a great year in a title winning year.

Maybe I am, but the signs don't look promising.

In your head maybe.

When you were 10th you were woefully underachieving. Winning the league is ahead of schedule, but not capitalising now can set you back.

We plan on capitalising.

I am not sure if you are serious that your 2nd string is better than Uniteds. Lindergaard, Evans, Smalling, Jones, Cleverly, Fletcher, Valencia, Young, Welbeck, Hernandez.

Deadly serious.

Here is a question. If your first team is much better than United, your second string much better than United, why did you only finish above them on goal difference? Something must have gone wrong then? So what was it?

Nothing went wrong, we won the league.

No, but you have done some of the same things, both good and bad.

Well we don't have an owner buying players which is the whole point of your Chelsea/Valencia comparison, so like I said you are comparing apples to oranges.

 

[moomba]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

Of course this is what every club in a similar position tries to do. The problem is that once you are at the top you need to really cement your place there. Blackburn are an example of what can happen if you don't. This is the year to complete the squad, then you can fall back to a more sustainable model for the next 8 or so years. Before perhaps needing another decent cash injection to build a new team once more.

An overhaul is just not required. We will look to add to the squad where possible, and will continue to improve. Comparisons with Blackburn, well I'm starting to think you're just here as a WUM.

No it is a scarily similar situation, but Chelsea were even more established at the top, had a stronger squad and sustained success in the CL. Chelsea needed only one top signing. You need three. In 06/07 Chelsea lost the league, because their defence could not cope with fixture congestions. Games against Liverpool with Essien at the back screwed them over.

Chelsea had a small and ageing squad. They won the champions league shortly after. Not too bad I would have thought.

Seriously how do you think you will do without Kompany, Toure or even Silva for a a couple of months? Things will be much worse this season, because you are now seeded higher in the CL and cannot possibly get as unlucky as last years draw. Most likely will get much further in the FA cup too.

Well we were without Kompany for 7 league matches last season, without Yaya for 6 matches and without Silva for 2 matches plus a further 3 where he started on the bench.

We did OK, and will continue to improve our squad to cope with such eventualities.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Winter defends Marwood

None of this shit would have been necessary if Mancini hadn't issued his idiotic 'ask Marwood' comments the other week. That's the unfortunate truth. If you've got a fucking problem deal with it in house. What winter is dead right with is that these comments were really aimed at Abu Dhabi.

 

[larderland]

bump

first we miss out on hazard now we cant even tie up sinclair

marwood you are fantastic....

 

[bapi]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

Of course, Mancini is not stupid. He knows 95% of fans will support him and nobody from Abu Dhabi wants to see him saying: ''I told them. We don't have enough players.'' for next 5 months. I'm sure a lot of things will happen in next 77 hours.

 

[Balti]

Re: Winter defends Marwood

great article by Winter

 

[grim up north]

bump

first we miss out on hazard now we cant even tie up sinclair

marwood you are fantastic....

Larderland you are boring....